bland
no fun styling
not very aggresive
taken from this thread, do the same for japaense cars. And please make it constructive. Not "Whoia every civic is R1ce"
Rotary powah!!!!!
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Quote, originally posted by nourdmrolnmt1 » bland
no fun styling
not very aggresiveYou're driving a very different Japanese car than I am.
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Quote, originally posted by cougar » You're driving a very different Japanese car than I am.
No kidding!
All the VW's lined up at the dealer for service.I always beep and wave.
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Quote, originally posted by nourdmrolnmt1 » bland
no fun styling
not very aggresiveComing from the guy driving a Saab.
Do they have different principles of engineering in Japan? Oh yeah, must be that special Asian math & physics..
elegantly simple ...in dark contrast to German (and Italian) cars which are unnecessarily complicated
From my experience with my Mazda 6, this Japanese engineered vehicle is solid, and has great engine and transmission, excellent design inside and out, and is fun to drive.
Quote, originally posted by The Chemist » From my experience with my Mazda 6, this Japanese engineered vehicle is solid, and has great engine and transmission, excellent design inside and out, and is fun to drive. Yeah, you gotta give it up to the Japanese for making such a great engine as is in the Mazda6
Quote, originally posted by The Chemist » From my experience with my Mazda 6, this Japanese engineered vehicle is solid, and has great engine and transmission, excellent design inside and out, and is fun to drive. Impossible!!! All Japanese cars are cheap with no refinement and poor engineering! You must be driving a VW instead, my good sir!!!!
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with the newer japanese cars its a very close call, IMHO many are much better engineered than the German ones.As for the older cars lets say before 96 or so...
-bland interior
-most drive more like apliance more than anything else. Allthough there are some exceptions such as the older civics(specially the hatch), crx, integra etc...
-lack of solid, planted feel. Two things come to mind.
-Solid sounding body pannels in german cars.
-The suspension in most japanese cars of that era feel soft yet "bouncy" and the german ones feel controlled, solid and sometimes even a tad hard on the bumps.
-Also the RWD german cars do not dive when you brake, they squat. Not sure if this is because the cars is RWD.and as for the good, reliability, will not die whatever you throw at it. The German car on the other hand need routine maintenance... and have little things here and there even the mos reliable BMW or Merc.
Like I said before the newer cars are very very different, you hardly notice they are japanese at times. I
Quote, originally posted by b0mbrman » Yeah, you gotta give it up to the Japanese for making such a great engine as is in the Mazda6 I'm not sure if the sarcasm was intentional or not, but isnt' that a Ford motor?
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Quote, originally posted by cougar » I'm not sure if the sarcasm was intentional or not, but isnt' that a Ford motor?
Based on the Duratec motor but I believe the top end was engineered by Mazda.
Quote, originally posted by Oliver@triplezoom » Based on the Duratec motor but I believe the top end was engineered by Mazda. ding ding, the block and internals are duratec, the heads, and intake are mazda
I notice how little work they need.My fiance has a 97 Accord that she's beat the hell out of, I have a 98 GLX that I baby. My seats might be more comfortable, but guess which car never needs to be worked on?
Uh huh, the beat-to-hell Accord. Always starts, rarely rattles, never needs winding.
Oh, and the doors are just as heavy and solid as my Jetta.
hi revving, progressive styling (maybe a bit too progressive), surprising power for initial lag in throttle response (only in lower revs)
surprisingly higher threashold of grip thanks to light weight providing a nice driving dynamic
Japanese cars generally feel lighter on their feet than German cars (some will say less planted,) generally don't feel or sound as solid, and are typically simpler. Those are sweaping generalizations, but that's what the threads looking for.
100% reliable
Quote, originally posted by pentoro » Do they have different principles of engineering in Japan? Oh yeah, must be that special Asian math & physics.. The math and science are the same except that a Japanese math or science grad is very aware of the fact that very little of what he has learned was developed by his own people. Better to copy then.
Quote, originally posted by nourdmrolnmt1 » bland
no fun styling
not very aggresiveUmm, yeah. My Japanese car is less bland, has more fun styling, and is a lot more aggressive than your European car.
Quote, originally posted by 914 VR6 » The math and science are the same except that a Japanese math or science grad is very aware of the fact that very little of what he has learned was developed by his own people. Better to copy then.
bwhahaha, give this guy the "idiot of the day" award
Quote, originally posted by 914 VR6 » The math and science are the same except that a Japanese math or science grad is very aware of the fact that very little of what he has learned was developed by his own people. Better to copy then. Wait, what?
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From driving my two Integras....Well-laid-out controls. Good tactility. Made for a short person (MkI and MkII). Seating was good at first, poorer in later editions. Very crisp lines. Motor a bit noisy, trans a bit sloppy (autotragics). Handling was good in both cars.
Completely inoffensive, with a bit of anal thrown in for puff factor. Seem to start out great, and then trend toward Buick as the line ages.
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Quote, originally posted by GTI 20v » Umm, yeah. My Japanese car is less bland, has more fun styling, and is a lot more aggressive than your European car.
i know you are but what am i?
In general (doesn't mean ALL)"Appliance like"
Quote, originally posted by xmaciek82x » 100% reliable In that case can you tell me why my 2 toyotas have been less reliable then my "supposenly" unreliable B5 Passat???
Well lets see.
I have spent lots of time driving my gf's 97 accord. So I suppose I can answer this. Or more appropriately, what do I notice when I drive a Honda Accord from 1997!
It's reliable, very reliable. It has decent room, and is adequately comfortable, though my jetta is far more comfortable, while being significantly smaller. What else...... Hmm, it has perfectly adequate power, and the tranny is decent.
I do notice that the car has not an ounce of road feel. I have no idea what the car is actually doing from inside the cockpit. I have a fear of pushing the car at all. It is a very numb experience. The gas mileage is not all that great either.
It is not that great of a car to spend time in, but it is ever so reliable. Bottom line: It is a solid commuter car w/out any ounce of performance tuned into it. Which is a shame, because the rear suspension looks pretty neat.
Delightfully light controls that don't tire in traffic, but don't give up precision, either.KISS engineering. Things are bolted together, rather than press-fit or tack welded or held in with three different odd sizes of hex screws.
Crappy air conditioning.
A sense that you're operating something mechanical with a function. The "black box" is a little more transparent. You're given a little more awareness of the nature of the beast.
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Quote, originally posted by VdubChaos »
In that case can you tell me why my 2 toyotas have been less reliable then my "supposenly" unreliable B5 Passat???You're an engineer.
You took at least *one* statistics class.
You should know the answer to that question.
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I notice very precise economical engineering. Japanese cars are very reliable and affordable transportation. They are light and can be fun to drive. They are not particularly innovative but are very refined in both style and engineering.
Quote, originally posted by masa8888 »
bwhahaha, give this guy the "idiot of the day" awardSo this is where you get out your math or science book and scan the name of a Japanese contributor. E.g., a theorem in math named after a Japanese, a Japanese Isaac Newton or a Carl Friedrich Gauss etc. And don't resort to the argument that "idiots" like to use that because you can find one or two lesser scientists or mathematians that were Japanese that it shows that the Japanese contributed equally to math and science.
Quote, originally posted by cougar » You're an engineer.
You took at least *one* statistics class.
You should know the answer to that question.I am?
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