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      What Could Survive an (EMP) Electro Magnetic Pulse Bomb

      Watching the video below made me wonder, what cars would survive an EMP blast besides ones that are completely disconnected from a power source?


      Edit: Mods, can you stick "Survive" in my title? I missed that one.

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      None unless hardened against EMP. And disconnecting the battery won't do anything to protect against the pulse. Every single electronic circuit will be fried if a EMP occurs within range.
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      Well, if it had any processors/microelectronics in critical areas, it's dead. My Beetle would require a return to points from it's hall switch electronic ignition, but that's putting it back the way it was!
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      Re: (Air and water do mix)

      Quote, originally posted by Air and water do mix »
      Well, if it had any processors/microelectronics in critical areas, it's dead. My Beetle would require a return to points from it's hall switch electronic ignition, but that's putting it back the way it was!

      Then, that means that....after a worldwide EMP war, Cuba would take over the world!

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      Any diesel engine with a mechanical injection pump... in the US, I think that'd include MkII and MkI diesels, among other late '70s and early '80s diesel cars.

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      My inner geek remembers the issue of Xmen where Magneto hit the Earth with an EMP blast.....wasn't pretty.....

      later that issue he pulled Wolvie's adamantium out.....even less pretty!


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      Re: What Could Survive an (EMP) Electro Magnetic Pulse Bomb (chucchinchilla)

      Quote, originally posted by chucchinchilla »
      Watching the video below made me wonder, what cars would survive an EMP blast besides ones that are completely disconnected from a power source?


      Edit: Mods, can you stick "Survive" in my title? I missed that one.

      http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=389_1251668464

      It wouldn't matter if they were connected to a power source. The circuits would fry via induction. They need to be in a hardened enclosure to survive an EMP.

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      Quote, originally posted by HerrGolf »
      Any diesel engine with a mechanical injection pump... in the US, I think that'd include MkII and MkI diesels, among other late '70s and early '80s diesel cars.

      Remembering the wonky workings of my old and busted '84 Rabbit Diesel, there's still a normally closed electrical solenoid that controls fuel flow through the mechanical diesel injection pump which is what actually shuts the engine off when the ignition is switched off. If power is cut to said solenoid, the engine dies.

      In the off chance that that the solenoid windings get fried during an EMP blast, the engine will likely be locked into running all the time--or not at all.


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      Quote, originally posted by Dextrobrick »

      Remembering the wonky workings of my old and busted '84 Rabbit Diesel, there's still a normally closed electrical solenoid that controls fuel flow through the mechanical diesel injection pump which is what actually shuts the engine off when the ignition is switched off. If power is cut to said solenoid, the engine dies.

      In the off chance that that the solenoid windings get fried during an EMP blast, the engine will likely be locked into running all the time--or not at all.

      Easily repaired via a bypass... the car could still function with a bit of work.


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      Re: (Uberhare)

      Quote, originally posted by Uberhare »
      None unless hardened against EMP. And disconnecting the battery won't do anything to protect against the pulse. Every single electronic circuit will be fried if a EMP occurs within range.

      Faraday cage? or something else is required to isolate something from an EMP?


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      So 25 year old diesel cars with some repairs would fit the bill?
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      Re: FV-QR (chucchinchilla)

      my parents old 75' suburban would probably be all right with maybe some minor repairs. 350 SBC with a carb and about 10 wires in the whole truck.

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      You could mount all your electronic inside an old microwave and run wires out from that.
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      You guys read to many comic books.
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      Re: (1.8Tquattro)

      Jeep CJ?

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      There are plenty of Mil spec vehicles that could be brought to life with only minor modifications.

      Air started, air controlled, mechanically injected diesel engines would be a no-brainer. Its a common set-up for petroleum transfer trucks. They wouldn't be affected at all. The gauges and lights would all be fried, but it would start and run like normal.

      Similar setups with fuel shutoff solenoids (electronic) could easily be bypassed (<5min of work). Zipties or manual choke style cables would be all thats needed. I know, I've done it real-world.

      Mechanically injected diesel engines with normal starters would be out of the game initially, but could be repaired quickly.

      Anything with electronic injection would be out.


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      i've known so many paranoid old school gearheads that seriously believe that running a 1960's/70's carburated motor will let them get outta dodge while everyone else fries. all those guys have aftermarket ignition units like Accels.
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      A series one Land Rover should be electronics free. If it does happen to break you can repair it with a banana leaf and a rock.

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      Re: FV-QR (patrickvr6)

      The mini-van Tom Cruise used in War of the Worlds.



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      Re: What Could Survive an (EMP) Electro Magnetic Pulse Bomb (chucchinchilla)

      EMP. Is that anywhere similar to when you toddler daughter pushes your laptop off a table?

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      Proper shielding is all that is needed to survive HAEMP. The last thing I tested at WSMR had all sorts of electronics, and while it did die at 100% effective pulse, it still restarted (which is acceptable).

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      Re: (Uberhare)

      Quote, originally posted by Uberhare »
      None unless hardened against EMP.

      No.

      A carbed engine with points ignition will do just fine.

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      Something tells me like -anything- no EMP will be 100% effective and so some things will survive and some things won't depending on their proximity to the pulse.

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      I always thought that as long as the electronic device is off, it'd be fine.

      I guess I'm way off and I have no clue where I derived that from.

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      Just google "EMP proof vehicles". That will give you pages of conspiracy theory/NWO forums full of the paranoid who are buying/modifying their vehicles to use as BOV's(Bug Out Vehicles).

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      Re: FV-QR (Deflated_97)

      Quote, originally posted by Deflated_97 »
      The mini-van Tom Cruise used in War of the Worlds.


      HAHA....that was my first thought too


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      Quote, originally posted by Surfing On A Rocket »
      Just google "EMP proof vehicles". That will give you pages of conspiracy theory/NWO forums full of the paranoid who are buying/modifying their vehicles to use as BOV's(Bug Out Vehicles).

      Sort of like the MK4 forum of conspiracy theorists.

      call it potatography

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      Quote, originally posted by MP413Racer »

      HAHA....that was my first thought too

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      So I'm NOT the only one who has actually thought about this?!
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      IF that ever happened, I could probably get a TON of money for my Mercury (which is for sale in my sig right now! /shameless plug)


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