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      The 2017 F1 Countdown Thread

      Schedule current as of Nov 30

      Not all the drivers are definite yet, but this is what is known as of Nov 11


      Round
      Grand Prix Circuit Date
      1 Australian Grand Prix Melbourne Grand Prix Circuit, Melbourne Mar 26
      2 Chinese Grand Prix Shanghai International Circuit, Shanghai Apr 09
      3 Bahrain Grand Prix Bahrain International Circuit, Sakhir Apr 16
      4 Russian Grand Prix Sochi Autodrom, Sochi Apr 30
      5 Spanish Grand Prix Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya, Barcelona May 14
      6 Monaco Grand Prix Circuit de Monaco, Monte Carlo May 28
      7 Canadian Grand Prix Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, Montreal Jun 11
      8 European Grand Prix Baku City Circuit, Baku Jun 25
      9 Austrian Grand Prix Red Bull Ring, Spielberg Jul 09
      10 British Grand Prix Silverstone Circuit, Silverstone Jul 16
      11 Hungarian Grand Prix Hungaroring, Budapest Jul 30
      12 Belgian Grand Prix Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps, Stavelot Aug 27
      13 Italian Grand Prix Autodromo Nazionale Monza, Monza Sep 03
      14 Singapore Grand Prix Marina Bay Street Circuit, Singapore Sep 17
      15 Malaysian Grand Prix Sepang International Circuit, Kuala Lumpur Oct 1
      17 United States Grand Prix Circuit of the Americas, Austin, Texas Oct 22
      18 Mexican Grand Prix Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, Mexico City Oct 29
      20 Brazilian Grand Prix Autódromo José Carlos Pace, São Paulo Nov 12
      21 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Yas Marina Circuit, Abu Dhabi Nov 26



      Team
      Constructor Power unit Number Driver Number Driver
      Scuderia Ferrari Ferrari Ferrari 5 Sebastian Vettel 7 Kimi Räikkönen
      Sahara Force India F1 Team Force India-Mercedes Mercedes 11 Sergio Pérez 31 Esteban Ocon
      Haas F1 Team Haas-Ferrari Ferrari 8 Romain Grosjean 20 Kevin Magnussen
      Renault F1 Team Renault Renault 30 Jolyon Palmer 27 Nico Hulkenberg
      McLaren Honda McLaren-Honda Honda 14 Fernando Alonso 2 Stoffel Vandoorne
      Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team Mercedes Mercedes 77 Valtteri Bottas 44 Lewis Hamilton
      Red Bull Racing Red Bull-TAG (Renault) TAG (Renault) 3 Daniel Ricciardo 33 Max Verstappen
      Sauber F1 Team Sauber-Ferrari Ferrari 9 Marcus Ericsson 94 Pascal Wehrlein
      Scuderia Toro Rosso Toro Rosso-??? (Renault) ??? (Renault) 26 Daniil Kvyat 55 Carlos Sainz
      Williams Martini Racing Williams-Mercedes Mercedes 19 Felipe Massa 18 Lance Stroll


      I realize I should reformat these in order of their places in the WCC, but adding/removing rows in this forum is a PITA.

      Looking forward to 2017.

      A few rule tweaks: c/o https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/h...-calendar.html

      Wet-weather standing starts
      A new procedure regarding wet weather starts was accepted. From 2017, if a safety car is deemed to be required for the beginning of a race due to wet weather, a normal standing start will occur once the track is deemed safe to race. The process will see the safety car return to the pit lane and the cars assemble on the grid for the start.
      Helmet livery rules eased


      Drivers must continue to present their helmets in substantially the same livery at every event of the FIA Formula One World Championship for easy recognition of the driver in the car, however a driver will now be allowed one event (such as a home race) for a special livery (at the driver’s choice). Drivers will also be allowed to change their helmet liveries if changing teams during the season.


      No more stockpiling power units

      During any single event, if a driver introduces more than one of a power unit element that is subject to penalty, only the last element fitted may be used at subsequent events without further penalty. This is to prevent the stockpiling of spare power unit elements.

      Fixed early-season tyre allocations

      For the first five events of the 2017 Championship season only, the normal team selection procedure for tyres will not be used as the deadline occurs before pre-season testing. For these events the supplier will allocate two sets of the hardest compound specification, four sets of the medium compound specification and seven sets of the softest compound specification to each driver.

      The WMSC also confirmed changes to Appendices 6 and 8 of the 2017 F1 Sporting Regulations which clarify outsourcing arrangements and conduct permitted regarding Listed Parts, Non-Listed Parts, wind tunnel testing and personnel transfer between teams engaged in a working or developmental relationship.
      Last edited by @McMike; 03-07-2017 at 08:14 AM.

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      Yes! 2017, more tire, more aero, less tokens!

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      Hoping Ross Brawn also adds a little more variety into this season. Better than grumpy ol bernie troll.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lucian1988 View Post
      Hoping Ross Brawn also adds a little more variety into this season. Better than grumpy ol bernie troll.
      What? Not enough Nazi hookers for your taste? Lightweight.
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      Wasn't the RB Renault/TAG power unit deal with TAG for only a year? So, isn't it a market Renault PU for 2017?

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      Quote Originally Posted by ramylson View Post
      Wasn't the RB Renault/TAG power unit deal with TAG for only a year? So, isn't it a market Renault PU for 2017?
      Not sure, I think both RB teams will be running the same Renault PU in 2017-18. Not sure what badge will be on it. (edited it to get as close as we could for now)
      Last edited by @McMike; 11-11-2016 at 05:37 PM.

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      I'm going to try to go to the U.S Grand Prix and the Mexican Grand Prix, i missed it this year, i'm not letting it happen again!

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      Quote Originally Posted by kptaylor View Post
      Yes! 2017, more tire, more aero, less tokens!
      more aero was the last thing they needed. less aero more ground effects would lead to far more exciting races

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      Quote Originally Posted by ramylson View Post
      Wasn't the RB Renault/TAG power unit deal with TAG for only a year? So, isn't it a market Renault PU for 2017?
      Quote Originally Posted by @McMike View Post
      Not sure, I think both RB teams will be running the same Renault PU in 2017-18. Not sure what badge will be on it. (edited it to get as close as we could for now)
      http://www.formula1.com/en/latest/he...rtnership.html

      Red Bull/Tag through 2018. Unsure of Toro Rosso

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      The 2017 F1 Countdown Thread

      Will be nice to have Montreal back to back with the other Americas races but Oct will be too cold for the tires.

      I'm surprised they also left Montreal and Baku with only 1 week separation like this year. Was it mentioned why for 2016? They'll be rushing back to Europe only to take a break.

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      I thought the German GP was dropped for 2017?

      http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...ndar/94414950/
      welcome to the layer cake

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      Quote Originally Posted by n0rdicalex. View Post
      I thought the German GP was dropped for 2017?

      http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...ndar/94414950/
      I saw that, but was going to wait until next Wednesday because it said "Set to be dropped" and "will confirm next Wednesday."

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      Quote Originally Posted by @McMike View Post
      I saw that, but was going to wait until next Wednesday because it said "Set to be dropped" and "will confirm next Wednesday."
      understood.

      looks like the last year for Malaysian F1 race too, unfortunately. I like the track and love the extreme heat and humidity (though prefer it early in the calendar to test the cars), so it'll be sad to see it off the calendar.
      welcome to the layer cake

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      Hoping to make the trip to COTA next year, stay with some friends in Texas. Interested in seeing fatter rubber and lower cars make a return.
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      yes, i am bored by FWD driving dynamics, and anyone who doesn't drive there cars to the limits and the beyond.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Cousin Eddie View Post
      Hoping to make the trip to COTA next year, stay with some friends in Texas. Interested in seeing fatter rubber and lower cars make a return.
      how much fatter are these tires?

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      Bold prediction: Lance Stroll will score a point in Melbourne and shotgun a Foster's in the paddock.

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      Quote Originally Posted by robhurlburt View Post
      how much fatter are these tires?


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      Quote Originally Posted by robhurlburt View Post
      how much fatter are these tires?
      Pirelli claimed the cars will be up to 5 seconds faster with tires being 2.5 of those seconds. We'll see. Edit; i'm not sure if you auto-corrected a ninja edit or I just read too fast, but I swear your post said "faster".

      As for fattness:

      "The main source for slashing lap times will come from the wider Pirelli rubber next year. Currently the overall width of the tyres are 305-355mm at the front and 365-380mm rear, depending on the design of the wheels and how far that pushes the sidewall of the tyre outward.

      For 2017 we will effectively see the rear tyres come to the front and a brand new set of rear tyres at 450-465mm."

      http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/05/1...ars-2016-2017/








      Last edited by Cousin Eddie; 11-28-2016 at 03:42 PM.
      Quote Originally Posted by cockerpunk View Post
      yes, i am bored by FWD driving dynamics, and anyone who doesn't drive there cars to the limits and the beyond.

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      I wonder if we'll see any impact to pit stop times given the increased size/weight of the tires.

      Maybe the mechanics will bulk up accordingly.

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      The dates for Brazil and Abu Dhabi above are incorrect. Here are the right ones:

      12 November – Brazil (Sao Paulo)
      26 November – United Arab Emirates (Abu Dhabi)

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      good to know the season begins on my 50th birthday!!!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Oliver@triplezoom View Post
      The dates for Brazil and Abu Dhabi above are incorrect.
      Thanks!

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