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      A lot to reply to here, not brothering quoting so hopefully everyone will know the points I'm referring to...

      Last Saturday is when i almost had the deal done on the new Civic. I pulled back from that because to get the Civic I wanted I jumped the payments up more than my wife wanted and to keep them where wanted to be I had a base model Civic, which i wasn't really happy with. Plus we still have winter here and I didn't want to get into the added cost of winter tires for a short time right now. I'm still taking a hit on the car anyway I do it and I've been trying to decide if it's really worth it. The deal on the Civic was good enough to make me think I should but still left me tacking part of the Jetta to the Civic which made me uncomfortable do it.


      I'd take it tomorrow for a trade in on a Civic but with the way the car is running they'd know something was wrong right away. It could be fine tomorrow but I have my doubts.


      It's not that I'm not confrontational, because I on certain things i can be a real dick. But like I mentioned before, it's a small town, I do business with this dealerships and almost every other one on a daily bases for my company. If i walk in like a ******* I could loose them and about 3 other dealership as customers which is alot of revenue for my business. I always dance this line, I want support who supports me but when it comes to issues afterwards it can causes type of problems. I tend let me wife handle it because I can wash my hands of it for the most part.


      I've been in contact with other service departments in VW dealers. One is just as confused as my local dealer and the other 2 support the bad gas problem. But none offered any advice for the melting plastic smell. Taking a vacation day may be easy for some of you but not for me. I try to save them for stuff that really matters like family time. But yes if it came down to it and another dealer could fix it I'd take the day but none have left me with that impression.


      We've been in contact with VWoC and have an open case. Not sure whats that's going to help but we'll see where it goes.


      And I'm not paralyzed when it comes to vehicle decisions. I may over think a bit but I don't like to jump into stuff. I like to weight all my options before making a move. I don't have money to burn so i try to make the best buy I can.


      To make my wife happy it has to be a non VW for the same payment, not going to happen. Thats another factor

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      Quote Originally Posted by AVCon View Post

      It's not that I'm not confrontational, because I on certain things i can be a real dick. But like I mentioned before, it's a small town, I do business with this dealerships and almost every other one on a daily bases for my company.
      Sorry- I missed this before.
      Yeah, being a normal customer with a business that you also have business to business relations can cause issues when sh*t goes south.
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      Being in business to business sales adds a whole new layer that a average person doesn't have to deal with. It was a larger factory in leasing our Escape. I'm also dealing with this issue on a purchase for my mother. The vehicle she wants isn't at a dealer we want to support.

      But being a dick isn't going to get any resolved any faster or better. If anything I'd like to think my relationship with the dealer is helping. It's not like the dealer is in the business to loose money either.


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      Quote Originally Posted by AVCon View Post
      To make my wife happy it has to be a non VW for the same payment, not going to happen. Thats another factor
      this is something you need to work on.

      you wont be getting a newer, better car for the same $$ especially if you have negative equity.

      she needs to come to terms with spending slightly more $ to no longer have car problems.
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      Quote Originally Posted by AVCon View Post
      If anything I'd like to think my relationship with the dealer is helping.

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      i know you'd like to think that. but you have been dealing with this problem for how long?
      if the relationship was actually helping, dont you think something more productive/corrective than "bad gas" and unnecessary carbon treatments would have been done my now??
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      next time they give you the car back, just nod and say ok thanks, then go dump it.

      nothing about your relationship will be damaged, because youll walk away on good terms.

      gonna have to spend a little more money to get something better than vws absolute bottom rung cheapest car, sorry just the way its gonna be. your wife got the escape she wanted, cant be the end of the world for her for you to get an ex or whatever over an lx so YOU can be haply too.

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      Have they looked at the fuel pump as a problem?

      Also, sounds like it might be a heater core issue with the plastic smell, as it only smells when the heat is on?

      Usually when you have those strange issues they give you a loaner and fly in a VW tech to look at the issues to try and fix it.

      Also wouldn't hurt to have the local VW mechanic guy take a look at it as he might have a solution to the problem. He probably has more experience with VW's than half the service department there.

      worth a try.
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      I did some more checking around with some local VW groups and apparently this is a way more common problem than I thought. I talked to a few guys with the same car and problem. All blamed on bad fuel. Nothing seems to fix the problem, fuel additives or running premium fuel. Guess we have crap fuel in Nova Scotia that these ****ty motors doesn't like, even tho there doesn't seem to be other cars being effected.


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      Quote Originally Posted by AVCon View Post
      I did some more checking around with some local VW groups and apparently this is a way more common problem than I thought. I talked to a few guys with the same car and problem. All blamed on bad fuel. Nothing seems to fix the problem, fuel additives or running premium fuel. Guess we have crap fuel in Nova Scotia that these ****ty motors doesn't like, even tho there doesn't seem to be other cars being effected.


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      I honestly find that ridiculous. It's a 2016 Jetta not a 1980 and you live in a major city. Get VWoC to help you out with this because it is totally unacceptable.

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      We have an open case with VWoC now and we're waiting to hear back. I don't have many options for trade in as the car has no value. Honda was stepping up and giving me a decent trade but still leaves me backing a larger chunk than I thought for the Jetta after I ran the numbers myself. I'm looking for a convenience deal now to minimize the loose.


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      Going to replace my 2016 Jetta, Heres is what I am Considering

      Quote Originally Posted by Robski92 View Post
      I honestly find that ridiculous. It's a 2016 Jetta not a 1980 and you live in a major city. Get VWoC to help you out with this because it is totally unacceptable.
      Agreed. That is just a cop-out.


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      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      Sorry- I missed this before.
      Yeah, being a normal customer with a business that you also have business to business relations can cause issues when sh*t goes south.
      That's a fair point on OP's part. I will officially stop insinuating he's a wuss.

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      So my last trip to the dealer resulted in the spark plugs being replaced. They had the car for almost a week to do that and all of a sudden it had a code for a misfire. The dealer went ahead and closed my case with VWoC, how nice of them. Claiming it was all fixed but we'll see. Kind of laughable considering that is the cheapest thing they could of done months ago before a carbon cleaning. Now I will say the gas mileage has great improved and the few days I've had the car back it seems to be running pretty good. We took the car on a march break road trip and it's been good so fair.

      Still planning to get rid of the car but I'm waiting for a couple of rebates/ promotions to start next month to take advantage of so I'll basically see no loose. I'm not sure if I'll end up with the Civic at this point, I went back to the dealer last weekend to see if I could finalize a deal and the car I wanted sold. They seemed less willing to honour deal on another car and I didn't have my car back at the time to trade in.

      I'm also waiting because we are still getting hammered with winter here and I don't really want the extra cost of winter tires for a month. I'd rather save that for the fall.

      Mazda has some decent deals happening next month I'm going look into and the guy I bought our 2017 Escape from is really trying to sell me hard on a Fusion, really stepping with a big discount but I'm not sure I'm feeling a Fusion. Nice car and all but leaves me feeling like an old man. I may go back for the Civic hatchback or just go to another Honda dealer to see what I can get. I'm just going take my time and wait for the right deal to minimize the blow and get the right car.


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      Quote Originally Posted by AVCon View Post
      So my last trip to the dealer resulted in the spark plugs being replaced. They had the car for almost a week to do that and all of a sudden it had a code for a misfire. The dealer went ahead and closed my case with VWoC, how nice of them. Claiming it was all fixed but we'll see. Kind of laughable considering that is the cheapest thing they could of done months ago before a carbon cleaning. Now I will say the gas mileage has great improved and the few days I've had the car back it seems to be running pretty good. We took the car on a march break road trip and it's been good so fair.

      Still planning to get rid of the car but I'm waiting for a couple of rebates/ promotions to start next month to take advantage of so I'll basically see no loose. I'm not sure if I'll end up with the Civic at this point, I went back to the dealer last weekend to see if I could finalize a deal and the car I wanted sold. They seemed less willing to honour deal on another car and I didn't have my car back at the time to trade in.

      I'm also waiting because we are still getting hammered with winter here and I don't really want the extra cost of winter tires for a month. I'd rather save that for the fall.

      Mazda has some decent deals happening next month I'm going look into and the guy I bought our 2017 Escape from is really trying to sell me hard on a Fusion, really stepping with a big discount but I'm not sure I'm feeling a Fusion. Nice car and all but leaves me feeling like an old man. I may go back for the Civic hatchback or just go to another Honda dealer to see what I can get. I'm just going take my time and wait for the right deal to minimize the blow and get the right car.


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      How do you possibly know what deals are coming out in the future from manufacturers? Dealers don't even know.

      Anyway you just keep making excuses to keep that piece of sh!t, in 2 weeks you'll come up with some sh!thouse excuse why you can't unload it again, because it will be back at the dealer running like crap and you'll be all principled about being a nice guy and 'giving the dealer a 44th chance to make it right'.

      Just dump the ****er already. People are losing sympathy for you.

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      Quote Originally Posted by puma1552 View Post
      How do you possibly know what deals are coming out in the future from manufacturers? Dealers don't even know.

      Anyway you just keep making excuses to keep that piece of sh!t, in 2 weeks you'll come up with some sh!thouse excuse why you can't unload it again, because it will be back at the dealer running like crap and you'll be all principled about being a nice guy and 'giving the dealer a 44th chance to make it right'.

      Just dump the ****er already. People are losing sympathy for you.

      I don't know, going by what I'm told. If I didn't have to take a $9000 hit on trade in that car would be gone by now. It's easy to say unload the car but I can't see tacking that much onto a new loan, I'd never get ahead. The car is only worth $11,000 trade in and maybe $15,000 private sale or $16,000 on a dealers lot. I have been trying to convince deal the car but haven't been able to find anyone interested.

      The internet is the last place to go for sympathy.

      There as only one dealer that was willing to give me above book value trade and that deal disappeared because the car acted up and I couldn't get the deal done. My decision to take the car out on a long term loan is biting me in the ass, I took it out for 8 years at 0% just to make the payments as low as I could with the intentions of putting the extra money aside that i would have been paying on a shorter term to pay the car out sooner. But life happened and that money went elsewhere.


      If anyone still gives a **** the problem came back worse than ever about 2 weeks ago. To the point where the car wouldn't start, I was a minute away from calling road side assistance and it decide to finally go but ran horrible. Got the car to the dealer and that's where it's been ever since. They still can't determine that problem even though it's the gas and i've been told that by them and many other sources. I talked to different owners and dealers who know this problem and they all say there is no fix. VWoC has even said we are on the extreme end of this problem but reads off their script and says the dealership is doing as much as they can and they are working with them to solve the problem.

      The one time offer to get me into a different car seems to just have been comment made to make me happy for a short time while they tried to "fix" the car months ago, it has since expired it seems and the dealership isn't willing to explore that option anymore. I had a great conversation last Friday with the manager of dealership that just ended in more frustration. I asked him when does the point come to get us out of that unfixable car and his reply was where no where near that yet. Between the rentals, labor and parts the car is costing someone in the thousands to keep trying to fix. I'm sure my local dealer is seeing a benefit from warranty paying jobs and the rental is being billed back to VW so that would explain why they could care less about the problem actually being repaired other than the annoyance of having me or my wife drop in ever week.

      As of right now they have me in a rental and I could almost care less when I get the car back. I have no faith in the car or the dealership anymore, I almost don't even blame the dealership because it's a problem that I don't believe to be fixable while still using the fuel in my province, but at the sametime I like to think they would step up and help me out of the car like they initially sounded like they would.

      I've started the process with CamVap but I'm not holding my breath on that.

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      Wait.
      You owe 20k on a 2015 2.slow Jetta?
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      Why not start a lemon law claim?

      Nevermind, just saw your location, I don't think you have that there do you?
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      Quote Originally Posted by AVCon View Post
      I don't know, going by what I'm told. If I didn't have to take a $9000 hit on trade in that car would be gone by now. It's easy to say unload the car but I can't see tacking that much onto a new loan, I'd never get ahead. The car is only worth $11,000 trade in and maybe $15,000 private sale or $16,000 on a dealers lot. I have been trying to convince deal the car but haven't been able to find anyone interested.

      The internet is the last place to go for sympathy.

      There as only one dealer that was willing to give me above book value trade and that deal disappeared because the car acted up and I couldn't get the deal done. My decision to take the car out on a long term loan is biting me in the ass, I took it out for 8 years at 0% just to make the payments as low as I could with the intentions of putting the extra money aside that i would have been paying on a shorter term to pay the car out sooner. But life happened and that money went elsewhere.


      If anyone still gives a **** the problem came back worse than ever about 2 weeks ago. To the point where the car wouldn't start, I was a minute away from calling road side assistance and it decide to finally go but ran horrible. Got the car to the dealer and that's where it's been ever since. They still can't determine that problem even though it's the gas and i've been told that by them and many other sources. I talked to different owners and dealers who know this problem and they all say there is no fix. VWoC has even said we are on the extreme end of this problem but reads off their script and says the dealership is doing as much as they can and they are working with them to solve the problem.

      The one time offer to get me into a different car seems to just have been comment made to make me happy for a short time while they tried to "fix" the car months ago, it has since expired it seems and the dealership isn't willing to explore that option anymore. I had a great conversation last Friday with the manager of dealership that just ended in more frustration. I asked him when does the point come to get us out of that unfixable car and his reply was where no where near that yet. Between the rentals, labor and parts the car is costing someone in the thousands to keep trying to fix. I'm sure my local dealer is seeing a benefit from warranty paying jobs and the rental is being billed back to VW so that would explain why they could care less about the problem actually being repaired other than the annoyance of having me or my wife drop in ever week.

      As of right now they have me in a rental and I could almost care less when I get the car back. I have no faith in the car or the dealership anymore, I almost don't even blame the dealership because it's a problem that I don't believe to be fixable while still using the fuel in my province, but at the sametime I like to think they would step up and help me out of the car like they initially sounded like they would.

      I've started the process with CamVap but I'm not holding my breath on that.
      Wow, you really are between a rock and a hard place with that car. I really only see two options for you:
      First option, when you get the car back, take it to a different shop and have them look at the car. This might mean missing a day from work and costing you money to have it looked at.

      Second option, take the $9K loss on the car and see which dealer can give you the best option. You mentioned Mazda, Ford and Honda are willing to work with you, or have attractive incentives this month. Unless you have some cash saved up, I wouldn't really be picky about what model trim you get, just get the base model, and be happy that you have a car that runs.

      As for your wife not wanting a higher car payment. I would sit down with your wife and go through all your bills and create a budget, showing her that you two could afford a higher car payment.

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      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      Wait.
      You owe 20k on a 2015 2.slow Jetta?
      That's because the dealer gave him such a good deal

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      Quote Originally Posted by AVCon View Post
      It's not like the dealer is in the business to loose money either.
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      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      Wait.
      You owe 20k on a 2015 2.slow Jetta?
      That's Canadian, so like $15,000 US. I did get a large amount off the sticker price at the time. Just not enough to catch up to the depreciation or what the market is allowing. When I bought the car it was days before the whole TDi scandal thing and they started giving them away after that. That has really hurt the value.

      I did what I thought was right at the time, it's easy for a lot of you to look down on me or just basically talk **** because I bought a base model Jetta. The reality is I paid less than going price at the time and I bought what I thought was an economical car from a dealer I wanted to buy from. I've been happy with the car for the most part up til this point and I wouldn't even be on here bitching if the car was working fine. It's an extremely stupid and frustrating problem to have given it's all based on the fuel that I have no control over. I bought a car in a province that I expected to be able to use the fuel from. They have no clue on how to fix the car and have be bent over because I was stupid enough to take the payments out as long as I did. My wife watches our finances like a hawk and always likes to keep things to a comfortable level. If everything would have went right I would have had a much large chunk of the car ready to pay off by now but we had a few unexpected expenditures pop up in the last year.

      With that kind of negative equity most dealers don't even want to bother, some are more willing if I want to dump that amount on top. A few dealers were willing to minimize than others but still not to a point were I'd want to be. Once I get the car back I plan to go take a day and shop it around to some dealers in a larger area to see if they are more willing to deal. I am also going to take it to another VW dealer but the ones I've talked have all said they'd be doing the same thing as my dealer.
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      Quote Originally Posted by AVCon View Post
      Kind of laughable considering that is the cheapest thing they could of done months ago before a carbon cleaning.

      Not if you're trying to milk the warranty claim payments, best to repair expensive stuff that doesn't fix the problem. That way you bag 3-4 times the repair work before actually fixing the problem.

      This dealership is not your friend. Quicker you come to terms with that and steer toward another dealership the better.

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      Quote Originally Posted by BostonB6 View Post
      Not if you're trying to milk the warranty claim payments, best to repair expensive stuff that doesn't fix the problem. That way you bag 3-4 times the repair work before actually fixing the problem.

      This dealership is not your friend. Quicker you come to terms with that and steer toward another dealership the better.


      Yeah I commented the say thing in my other post. I totally agree now, just took me awhile to see that myself.

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      It's not the fuel.

      It's the dealer.

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