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      Vegas might soon surpass the Nurburgring as the world's longest race track.

      http://www.thedrive.com/news/9118/wo...as-not-germany



      By now, you might be fairly sick of hearing about the Nürburgring. It seems like anything and everything is being tested there these days, perpetuating a petty automotive pissing contest that does nothing but make cars needlessly harsh for actual road use. If billionaire entrepreneur John Morris has his way, however, the 'Ring's days in the sun might be numbered. In a report by Bloomberg Businessweek, Morris outlines his grand plans for an "adult Disneyland" that includes a 15-mile racetrack as a main attraction—that's 1.9 miles longer than the Nordschleife's 13.1 miles. Located 45 minutes from the Las Vegas Strip, Spring Mountain Motor Resort & Country Club is a rich guy's oasis, with 42 condos, a pool, indoor shooting range, and facilities where one can jet pack around Morris' man-made lake. Future plans include a dirt track, a community of luxury homes, a hotel, restaurants, theaters, a car wash, and a coffee shop. The price for all of this is steep, with memberships requiring $45,000 up front and $5,000 a year in dues.

      Other than hosting members track days and driving schools, Spring Mountain has also been rented out by car manufacturers for testing. When Morris finishes the expansion, it's set to topple the Nürburgring as longest test track ever. Its location in the Nevada desert means far less of the grueling elevation changes the Green Hell is famous for, which could make for less aggressively sprung cars if Spring Mountain is truly the next Nürburgring in the testing world.

      'Ring-record apathy is real, with every record-breaking announcement (and non-announcment) being met by more "so whats?" than the last. Perhaps, in a few years, Porsche, McLaren, and company will be duking it out over the fastest "Spring times" instead.
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      Longest race track would be the only thing it has going for it. It looks like a god damn sandbox.

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      That will be like a kart track compared to the Nürburgring
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      Quote Originally Posted by MXTHOR3 View Post
      Longest race track would be the only thing it has going for it. It looks like a god damn sandbox.
      Definitely. And looks extremely flat.

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      What am I missing? That looks like a few miles.
      The OG Russells is back!

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      I'm sure a lot of these guys went home after the carwash and played a little hans solo.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MXTHOR3 View Post
      Longest race track would be the only thing it has going for it. It looks like a god damn sandbox.
      Last edited by BongTechnician; 04-10-2017 at 04:35 PM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Russells View Post
      What am I missing? That looks like a few miles.
      They just got started, need to bulldoze a few more squares. need to put in a power plant first though and make sure people aren't giving poor approval ratings.


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      All those elevation changes look awesome.
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      I think I'd still rather go to see the Ring in Germany half way around the world.
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      The elevation changes are what made it fun.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Russells View Post
      What am I missing? That looks like a few miles.
      You're missing the sentence that starts with "When Morris finishes the expansion...."
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      Quote Originally Posted by MXTHOR3 View Post
      It looks like a god damn sandbox.
      Given the geographical location...that is literally a gigantic sandbox...
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      Vegas is also Paris. Fact!


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      May as well have built a giant circle to just do high speed runs. So what if it is longer? The whole point of the Nurburgring is the elevation changes with the unexpected WTF weather challenges.

      Also, the tourist buses.
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      Sounds similar to the 81-82 Caesars Palace GP was also "just as long as them European tracks" at 2.268 miles in length. Looks just as exciting as Monza, doesn't it?



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      Quote Originally Posted by @McMike View Post


      dafuq is that
      The OG Russells is back!

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      I'm sure a lot of these guys went home after the carwash and played a little hans solo.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Russells View Post
      dafuq is that
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesars_Palace_Grand_Prix

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      I've had turds shaped in better racetrack shapes than that
      The OG Russells is back!

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      I'm sure a lot of these guys went home after the carwash and played a little hans solo.

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      I blame James May for 'Ring-record apathy!
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      Quote Originally Posted by chris86vw View Post
      They just got started, need to bulldoze a few more squares. need to put in a power plant first though and make sure people aren't giving poor approval ratings.

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      As others have said, it's the elevation changes, small bumps and "texture" that make the 'ring what it is.

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      You never know. There may be another Las Vegas Grand Prix in the near future . . .

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      No, in all seriousness, though. There may be another Las Vegas grand prix in the not-so-distant future. It's not my client, so I can comment on it. There is very reliable information out there in the Southern Nevada legal community that a Monaco-inspired road course is in the works. That's not to say that F1 will necessary pick it up. But very detailed, very finalized proposals have been developed at great expense to all parties involved.

      There are essentially two plans that have been floated:

      1) Add the LV Grand Prix as a second USA grand prix and call it the "Grand Prix of the Americas" or something general (sort of like when there used to be two grand prixs in Germany, and one was called the German Grand Prix and one was called the "European Grand Prix;" or

      2) After the expiration of the contract in Austin, move the American Grand Prix to Vegas exclusively.

      I actually think a Vegas road course would be epic. It would likely be run at night to deal with the heat issues and to highlight the neon lights, etc.

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      Wow Caesars GP... Who knew?

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