Venezuelan citizens complain about their government and say it's "not their fault" but aren't the citizens at least partially responsible for who ends up in government? There must have been a series of decisions made by residents that helped things end up the way they are...
"Sometimes, I have a sudden urge to fart on this chair."
SeatIbiza, I hope things turn around down there, but history indicates that destroyed societies are very difficult to reconstitute.
So wait, Chavez was elected in 1998! So who elected the guy if he was so unpopular?
The Newshour on PBS did a spot on Venezuela more than a decade ago and concluded that this was a government that rigged elections and controlled media, but that may also be (at that time) genuinely popular, something like the way germans and Hitler. Sure, by Christmas of 1945 you couldn't find a german who would admit to having liked Hitler, but poll results may have been different in 1942.
Because if they did, I don't think Vemezuelans who elected Chavez can just hold up their hands and say they had nothing to do at all with Venezuela's current situation.
Which was my original ponderance.
To blame all venezuelans or all germans for the catastrophies visited upon them by their popular leaders suggests a foresight they didn't actually possess.
For sure there is responsibility for those who made the decision... the vote. Large catastrophes or failures are rarely the fault of one person. There's always accomplices of varying degrees of guilt, but it does begin with those lacking critical thinking skills. Lacking the discipline to control their emotional urges to knee jerk vs logically questioning the messenger.
These people aren't "all in it together". Maduro doesn't have a shop that needs inventory and customers and doesn't depend on a functioning petroleum industry for a paycheck. When things go this way in a country, people prove they aren't all in it together by fleeing.
I wouldn't even say that the people who acquiesced to or have survived the Chavez/Maduro revolution are deserving of their fate. People can make poor choices yet still not deserve what they get. Collective guilt isn't compatible with individual accountability; in a better world it's the individuals in the party who would answer for their acts.
Last edited by zukiphile; 04-22-2017 at 03:53 PM.
Lets not forget that the USA aided and sponsored a military coup in the country back in the 50s, and constantly meddled in the country since the 40s until present. Usually when the US interferes things only get much worse in the end.
I have a very close friend who fled with his family to the US. Fortunately he's been able to apply for citizenship through his job. Most all of his family is out of the country, but some distant relatives are still there. The last time he visited they needed things like soap, toothpaste, sponges, and other basic household items.
The things he's described are horrifying. I'm glad you were able to get out.