Reply With QuotePhotos of Turner's black F1 at Lime Rock last year:
http://www.pkadev.com/cm/pa/20...0Rock
The orange one is quite nice though. Although if I am gonna have a car that fast, its gonna be black so its at least a little bit subtle!
Quote, originally posted by Joe92GLi » What part of MA? Amesbury...
****in Frank...
What's Reach? I know he's got money, but I never asked how he gets it.
Ill go swing by Turner later to take a look...
Photos of Turner's black F1 at Lime Rock last year:
http://www.pkadev.com/cm/pa/20...0Rock
The orange one is quite nice though. Although if I am gonna have a car that fast, its gonna be black so its at least a little bit subtle!
ok
so... heres the deal
Frank owns THREE
Chassis 007 (the black one) Chassis 068 (an ex Brenner car) and this LM
this LM he has owned for years, but its been over in the UK the whole time
looks like he finally brought it home.Ive never seen Chassis 068 though. Ill ask about that one. That one may be in the UK
give me one.
Quote, originally posted by Chapel » ok
so... heres the deal
Frank owns THREEwho is Frank though??? what does he do for living that he can afford three McLarens????
someone mentioned he's the Co-founder of Reach...
dunno what that is though
Quote, originally posted by Chapel » someone mentioned he's the Co-founder of Reach...
dunno what that is thoughthe toothbrush company?
Quote, originally posted by gtivr4 » Photos of Turner's black F1 at Lime Rock last year:
http://www.pkadev.com/cm/pa/20...0Rock
The orange one is quite nice though. Although if I am gonna have a car that fast, its gonna be black so its at least a little bit subtle!
Turner was paid to take care of the car. Its not his but nonetheless
No not the toothbrush company - LOLFrank Selldorff
Chairman & CEO, SSI Group, Inc."Frank Selldorff is co-founder and co-CEO of Reach, the Boston-based Internet incubator that provided BrandMuscle's seed funding. In 1992, Frank founded Breakaway Solutions (NASDAQ: BWAY), a full service internet provider for eBusinesses, and served as its Chairman, President and CEO through 1998. Under his direction, the company was recognized as one of the nation's fastest growing technology companies, ranking #73 on the 1998 INC 500 and Deloitte and Touche's Fast 50/500 from 1996-1998. Before Breakaway, Frank held senior technology positions with Fidelity, BankBoston, Atlantic Data Services and Arthur D. Little. In addition, Frank serves as an advisor to The BIT Group, Granitar, Inofin, and TurnerMotorSport. He is also a member of the private investment group CommonAngels and is a board member of the National Foundation For Teaching Entrepreneurs (NFTE/New England), an organization devoted to fostering creativity and entrepreneurship in inner-city schools."
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Quote, originally posted by Peloton25 » No not the toothbrush company - LOL Frank Selldorff
Chairman & CEO, SSI Group, Inc."Frank Selldorff is co-founder and co-CEO of Reach, the Boston-based Internet incubator that provided BrandMuscle's seed funding. In 1992, Frank founded Breakaway Solutions (NASDAQ: BWAY), a full service internet provider for eBusinesses, and served as its Chairman, President and CEO through 1998. Under his direction, the company was recognized as one of the nation's fastest growing technology companies, ranking #73 on the 1998 INC 500 and Deloitte and Touche's Fast 50/500 from 1996-1998. Before Breakaway, Frank held senior technology positions with Fidelity, BankBoston, Atlantic Data Services and Arthur D. Little. In addition, Frank serves as an advisor to The BIT Group, Granitar, Inofin, and TurnerMotorSport. He is also a member of the private investment group CommonAngels and is a board member of the National Foundation For Teaching Entrepreneurs (NFTE/New England), an organization devoted to fostering creativity and entrepreneurship in inner-city schools."
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ERheh, I was totally gonna steal that SAME thing you wrote over at AF.com
Quote » That's one of the things he does. More research will reveal that he has his hands in lots of other companies. In his free time he likes to race cars though - in the Speedvision World Challenge series driving a Turner Motorsports prepped BMW 3-Series and also in the Panoz Racing series one year. and uh... he does... you know... he does ok...
Not one, or two, but three McLatren F1's???!?!?!? Hate him!
Quote, originally posted by Chapel » heh, I was totally gonna steal that SAME thing you wrote over at AF.com 
Yeah... I have done my research.
Some of you might find this to be an interesting read:
http://www.bmwcca.org/Roundel/...shtml
I don't think Frank really intended to own 3 F1's - the original car he bought wasn't able to be imported due to the OBD-II thing I mentioned earlier. He then set out to find a pre-1995 F1 which he purchased an imported (#007). Then sometime later, he purchased the LM. I know he's been trying to get the LM through the red tape for over a year. I'm not sure what's up with the original F1 that he purchased. This is supposed to be a photo of that car though.
...the only one I have ever seen, btw.
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i just wet myself dude
Here's list of all the models of the McLaren F1 built:Prototypes: 7
Road Car: 64
F1 GTR: 28
F1 LM: 5
F1 GT: 2
Spare Chasis: 1
Total: 107
The original colors for the 5 F1 LM models built are:
LM1 - Black + graphics
LM2 - Historic Orange
LM3 - Historic Orange
LM4 - Black + graphics
LM5 - Historic Orange
Modified by MEIN_VW at 4:25 PM 7-28-2003
Just to clarify, were you attempting to correct something that I had said by posting that info?? If so, where did I error? If not, thanks for including that.It should be noted that one of the 7 prototypes was the LM prototype and another was the F1 GT prototype. The other 5 were F1 road car prototypes.
The infomation about the colors for the five LMs is still up for debate though. I beleive what you have posted to be true based on the info from the poster of "Driving Ambition", but there are still a lot of other pieces of official info that claim all five production F1 LM's were finished in Historic Orange including this quote from the McLarenCars.com website:
"As a tribute to the memory of Bruce McLaren, all the F1 LM's were painted in the same Papaya Orange that was used on his contemporary Formula One and Can Am cars."
It's a great mystery if you care about the history of the car.
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I'm not trying to correct anything. Just thought it was interesting info people might like to see.A lot of people don't know just how many (or how few) F1's were actually built. In fact, some people think the F1 is still in production.
I was under the impression that all US legal F1's had to be converted to be single seaters only. As in the 2 side/rear seats had to be removed. Is this true?
That goes along with the ugly bumper story - basically Amerispec Corp made several modifications - all cosmetic without drilling a single new hole in the cars - in order to certify them. The side seats in the cars were never removed, Amerispec just engineered covers to fit over the seats, effectively eliminating them.The whole process was a very strange. Amerispec Corp had imported these 7 F1s through a free-trade zone and was calling themselves the manufacturer. They went to the trouble of issuing new VIN's for the vehicles and labeled the "Ameritech F1" instead of "McLaren F1". They also stated that the year of manufacture on all the cars was 1995 even though most were built after that year. Some would call the things they did shady, others would go even further and call them illegal. I'm certain that the owners didn't care so long as they couldn't be prosecuted and their cars wouldn't be taken away. So far no one has been prosecuted and all the cars are still here - converted back to their original form of course.
Here's some photos of the Amerispec Corp - Ameritech F1 in it's converted form. Boy was it ugly!!
And here's the interior with the covers over the side seats - "...and you though the normal F1 was hard to get into..."
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Modified by Peloton25 at 2:22 PM 7-28-2003
The larger images are finally hosted again here:http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4289555523
For whatever reason, I couldn't get Imagestation to let me upload from work - probably some wacky firewall issue I guess - so sorry for the delay if anyone was waiting eagerly.
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Quote, originally posted by Peloton25 » That goes along with the ugly bumper story - basically Amerispec Corp made several modifications - all cosmetic without drilling a single new hole in the cars - in order to certify them. The side seats in the cars were never removed, Amerispec just engineered covers to fit over the seats, effectively eliminating them. The whole process was a very strange. Amerispec Corp had imported these 7 F1s through a free-trade zone and was calling themselves the manufacturer. They went to the trouble of issuing new VIN's for the vehicles and labeled the "Ameritech F1" instead of "McLaren F1". They also stated that the year of manufacture on all the cars was 1995 even though most were built after that year. Some would call the things they did shady, others would go even further and call them illegal. I'm certain that the owners didn't care so long as they couldn't be prosecuted and their cars wouldn't be taken away. So far no one has been prosecuted and all the cars are still here - converted back to their original form of course.
Here's some photos of the Amerispec Corp - Ameritech F1 in it's converted form. Boy was it ugly!!
And here's the interior with the covers over the side seats - "...and you though the normal F1 was hard to get into..."
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ER
wow that is really gross
The two Black LM's are as follows.Black top half, Dark Grey bottom half, identical to the Uneon Clinic Le Mans car.
On the side are "bunting flag" style graphics in Red, Blue and Yellow with a thick white keyline. Believe me it looks horrible.
Both, along with other F1's are owned by the Brunei Royal family
Peloton, do you have any high-res images of the orange LM?
OMG that is my favorite McLaren. It only comes in papaya orange as a tribute to Bruce Mclaren since his Formula One and Can Am cars were painted in that color. Very nice pics
The driver in this picture looks somewhat like Scott Petterson from Modesto, CA. The guy who is on trial for murdering his wife and un-born son.
I have a dumb question about McLaren F1's... I thought these cars were designed and built in the United States... why all the hassle with "importing" them back into the country?
I saw Jay Leno at a 76 gas station in Studio City. It was on Christmass Eve of 2000. He is a funny looking character. He told me How he bought it from England(At this point im tripping out, Im talking to Leno and looking at a McLaren). I asked him hows the maintenence and he said well its included in the package that is anything fails, technicians will fly in from England to fix it. WhoaAnyways after this convo he just took off. Literally he tooooooooooook offfffffffff. vvvvvrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr //////M power
Quote, originally posted by W211 » The driver in this picture looks somewhat like Scott Petterson from Modesto, CA. The guy who is on trial for murdering his wife and un-born son.
its not... trust me
Quote, originally posted by ShockWaveVT » I have a dumb question about McLaren F1's... I thought these cars were designed and built in the United States... why all the hassle with "importing" them back into the country? nope - built and sold in Engloand.....
when i saw her do that..i was like "dammm...that girl has got Skillz She could do more with her butt than i could do with my arms....impressive!"
Quote, originally posted by Chapel » Amesbury...
****in Frank...
What's Reach? I know he's got money, but I never asked how he gets it.
Ill go swing by Turner later to take a look...Gee, the one time wished I still live at home, I grew up in Amesbury!!! It's still funny seeing the Turner signs in the old DeLong Auto Body shop.
Quote, originally posted by CameronGTX » I wonder what it's like driving a million dollar car through the city. Ditto...that car is nuts
I hate to ruin the thread but look what Mr Bean did!
I'm going to go to the bathroom alone with these pics now.
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Quote, originally posted by VDUB_V » I saw Jay Leno at a 76 gas station in Studio City. It was on Christmass Eve of 2000. He is a funny looking character. He told me How he bought it from England(At this point im tripping out, Im talking to Leno and looking at a McLaren). I asked him hows the maintenence and he said well its included in the package that is anything fails, technicians will fly in from England to fix it. Whoa Great story - my friend saw Jay in his McLaren on Mullholland near the Rock Store one weekend. I was too far away to get there that day. I've been trying to get to see his entire collection for quite some time. It's awesome how he will just stand around talking to people who are interested in his various vehicles. If you want, I have some decent photos of Leno's car that I can share.
I also have more hi-res shots of various LM's that I can post. Unfortunately, I've never seen a single photo of the two black LM's with the graphics that 250 GTO mentioned. If anyone has them, please forward them to me.
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Modified by Peloton25 at 3:48 PM 9-17-2003
Quote, originally posted by Peloton25 » [ Now there's a car designed for a true driving/car enthusiast. The tach is centered and the predominate display...in a car like that speed limits are optional
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