| Quote, originally posted by Article » |
| At $1.2 million, the Ferrari Enzo is hardly an affordable car for even the rich. And while the car has an MSRP of $643,330 it sells for more than double because of its scarcity. Furthermore, the Enzo is a car which commands respect and never demands it. It's a car of astronomical proportions and the only time you'll probably ever see one is if you go to a car show or visit a website to view pictures.
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At first I thought he was just doing it for "baller status" but the fact that he has two and an MC12 on the way makes me think he is a genuine car guy. I hope I'm right. With that said I'm jealous as hell. 
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (HaterSlayer)
Posted by: Vision33r at 11:58 AM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by HaterSlayer » |
At first I thought he was just doing it for "baller status" but the fact that he has two and an MC12 on the way makes me think he is a genuine car guy. I hope I'm right. With that said I'm jealous as hell. |
Nah, he's just like any other 23 yo with money... expensive toys are a must.
Must be an easy life... *sigh*
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (Vision33r)
Posted by: Fritz27 at 12:02 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by .:Ryan » |
Nah, he's just like any other 23 yo with money... expensive toys are a must. Must be an easy life... *sigh* |
He also has a Schumacher autographed helmet... But in the article he's talking about painting a CL55 pink for attention. 
Post Title: Re: (AutoEuphoria)
Posted by: Subwoofers at 12:03 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by AutoEuphoria » |
| Good for him! Good to see someone achieve success at an age that will allow him to enjoy it for a while. |
x2
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (HaterSlayer)
Posted by: true snowboards at 12:05 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Fritz27 » |
| Inb4commentsabouthesadouchebagbecausehewearsabaseballcapandjeans. |
He looks pretty normal for owning a record company.
Post Title: Re: (Subwoofers)
Posted by: redshift at 12:06 PM 6/30/2009
I also saw something that Lorne owns FXX no. 146359.
Modified by drewSAAB95 at 6:07 PM 6-30-2009
Post Title: Re: (AutoEuphoria)
Posted by: Zz_Radish_zZ at 12:08 PM 6/30/2009
We're both 23 and I can't help myself to wonder how he got into the position that he is in.
Post Title: FV-QR
Posted by: engrishmajer at 12:08 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by engrishmajer » |
| Why would you need two Enzos? |
Sigh....
Why would the MSRP be 600 grand and now they sell for 1 million?
Post Title: FV-QR
Posted by: HaterSlayer at 12:10 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by engrishmajer » |
| Why would you need two Enzos? |
Same reason why you'd need two Phantoms(which many people have) so you don't have to ship the car from house to house. It's easier to just have two of them.
Post Title: FV-QR
Posted by: axe at 12:10 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Zz_Radish_zZ » |
| We're both 23 and I can't help myself to wonder how he got into the position that he is in. |
Vapor-Record-Label?| Quote, originally posted by HaterSlayer » |
He also has a Schumacher autographed helmet... But in the article he's talking about painting a CL55 pink for attention. |
I think some of the celebrity enthusaists purposely say stupid things like "painting a CL55 pink for attention" on purpose, to keep up an image. They know its stupid, but its part of the business. or something.
Post Title: Re: (Zz_Radish_zZ)
Posted by: deucestudios at 12:12 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Zz_Radish_zZ » |
| We're both 23 and I can't help myself to wonder how he got into the position that he is in. |
It's not what you know. It's who.
Post Title: Re: FV-QR (engrishmajer)
Posted by: SAPJetta at 12:13 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by engrishmajer » |
| Why would you need two Enzos? |
So you can say that you have two more Enzos than most people.
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (HaterSlayer)
Posted by: Faba at 12:13 PM 6/30/2009
I bet this kid didn't even ride in New Yorker and sure as hell doesn't own one.
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (Faba)
Posted by: Subwoofers at 12:14 PM 6/30/2009
Missed the part that one enzo is in the US, while the other is in Canada.
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (drewSAAB95)
Posted by: platinum_overcast at 12:15 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by drewSAAB95 » |
| I was curious after reading about this kid and can't seem to find much of anything about C-Note, other than a few hip-hop releases in the mid 90's. It makes me think that somehow I think the elder Lorne Leibel, who lives in Canada (where the Enzo in the article was being trucked to), is who actually owns the two Enzos, the Barchetta, the soon to be purchased MC12, etc.. I also saw something that Lorne owns FXX no. 146359. |
Yep. Looks like this was all covered on f-chat 4 years ago:
http://www.ferrarichat.com/for...age=5
Post Title: Re: (deucestudios)
Posted by: Ubel GLI at 12:17 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by deucestudios » |
It's not what you know. It's who. |
| Quote, originally posted by engrishmajer » |
| Why would you need two Enzos? |
why buy one for $1.2million when you can buy two for twice the price?
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (platinum_overcast)
Posted by: drewSAAB95 at 12:20 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by platinum_overcast » |
Yep. Looks like this was all covered on f-chat 4 years ago: |
According to f-chat, he also owns/races a Formula 3 car.. Atleast he's got the background for the cars.
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (drewSAAB95)
Posted by: 1.8Tquattro at 12:23 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Zz_Radish_zZ » |
| Thought in the back of my mind: "This engineering degree better pay off, or else I'm going to be pretty pissed spending all those Friday nights and weekends in the engineering building." We're both 23 and I can't help myself to wonder how he got into the position that he is in. |
amen brother. 24 year old bio major here who cant even remember how to spell wekNd. its kids like c-note here that make me wonder if ive been lead astray... 
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (Subwoofers)
Posted by: engrishmajer at 12:47 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Subwoofers » |
| Rofl, the "engrishmajer" Missed the part that one enzo is in the US, while the other is in Canada. |
I understand that one is in Canada, but why not have some variety? Maybe a Veyron or Zonda F up north?
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (platinum_overcast)
Posted by: sandiegan at 12:53 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by platinum_overcast » |
Yep. Looks like this was all covered on f-chat 4 years ago: http://www.ferrarichat.com/for...age=5 |
A. This guy hasn't been 23 for a while
B. He is just a rich kid http://www.ferrarichat.com/for...age=8
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (HaterSlayer)
Posted by: Nubbin at 12:57 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by elevine17 » |
| I thought you are only supposed to put car covers on clean cars? If the car is dirty wont the cover scratch the paint? |
The Enzo's paint is far too fast to scratch!
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (sandiegan)
Posted by: WakeHead at 1:17 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by sandiegan » |
A. This guy hasn't been 23 for a while |
Heck, I've been 23 for a long, long time. And I still refuse to grow up. 
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (Subwoofers)
Posted by: drhavoc at 1:18 PM 6/30/2009
His House is for sale
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Posted by: rlfletch at 1:20 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by drhavoc » |
| His House is for sale |
Beetle Artwork.
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (WakeHead)
Posted by: mAdD INDIAN at 1:33 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Zz_Radish_zZ » |
| Thought in the back of my mind: "This engineering degree better pay off, or else I'm going to be pretty pissed spending all those Friday nights and weekends in the engineering building." We're both 23 and I can't help myself to wonder how he got into the position that he is in. |
50% bro + 50% douchebag = x
Solve for x.
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (HaterSlayer)
Posted by: Jetty! at 2:15 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by butterface » |
| Equation: 50% bro + 50% douchebag = x Solve for x. |
X= 
Post Title: FV-QR
Posted by: Hostile at 2:18 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by redshift » |
| Man, what a douchebag, wearing a baseball cap and jeans. |
It's not just the clothes, it's the b-boy stance.
Grade A douche.
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (mAdD INDIAN)
Posted by: spockcat at 2:21 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by mAdD INDIAN » |
| He races in Indy Pro Lights and was apparently a professional hockey player till he hurt his knee. |
Appears to be a different Cody Leibel. That one is now 30 years old according to web info and his playing stats would confirm that. Plus, those are mainly junior and minor pro teams that he played for:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/s...31769
Post Title: Re: FV-QR (Hostile)
Posted by: BltByKrmn at 2:35 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Hostile » |
| It's not just the clothes, it's the b-boy stance. http://www.lowrideredge.com/fe...z.jpg Grade A douche. |
Don't forget the typical Blow/Scarface/Godfather life sized poster.
Post Title: FV-QR
Posted by: Hostile at 2:39 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by BltByKrmn » |
Don't forget the typical Blow/Scarface/Godfather life sized poster. |
Good call.
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Posted by: driveareliablecar at 2:42 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by spockcat » |
Appears to be a different Cody Leibel. That one is now 30 years old according to web info and his playing stats would confirm that. Plus, those are mainly junior and minor pro teams that he played for: |
He's not that great for a center... He's got a lot more penalty minutes that anything else. I didn't read the story but all that money must have been given to him.
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Posted by: AIRider at 2:59 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by AutoEuphoria » |
| Good for him! Good to see someone achieve success at an age that will allow him to enjoy it for a while, or allow him to rebuild if he ever loses it. Always good to see an American success story |
Reading comprehension fails you..
1st, he didn't achieve ****, he got it from his old man who actually does/did something to earn it..
2nd, he is Canadian.. so unless you are talking 'American' as in the continent.. then I guess it doesn't fit as an 'American Success Story'..
So big whoop.. he is just a typical spoiled little Richie Rich.. young and with money to spare.. so what if he is a bit of a car aficionado.. doesn't take away the fact that the dude is just milking the goat and riding it all the way without actually 'earning' it..
Got more respect for Frankie Muniz who actually had/has a pretty decent car collection for a dude his age and not only did he do work to get it, he races and is pretty decent at it.. not just a spoiled rich kid..
Post Title: Re: (damion16v)
Posted by: Nubbin at 3:43 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by damion16v » |
| Why do so many celebreties have the flashiest of cars, yet the Camry-est homes? Beige and banality everywhere (structure aside). |
Meh. With exception of my garage, I certainly don't want the interior of my house to be full of black leather and aluminum/carbon fiber trim.
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Posted by: graff48 at 3:58 PM 6/30/2009
http://www.ferrarichat.com/for...t=143
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (vwtuner4ever)
Posted by: spockcat at 4:31 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by vwtuner4ever » |
He's not that great for a center... He's got a lot more penalty minutes that anything else. I didn't read the story but all that money must have been given to him. |
But this can't be the same Cody Leibel, 23 year old, being discussed here. No way he would have been playing in 1997 for the Barrie Colts. He would have been 11 years old. And no other stats are available for another player named Cody Leibel, so the Cody Leibel being discussed here never played ice hockey as a junior or minor league pro.
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (spockcat)
Posted by: dannyc at 5:12 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by .:Ryan » |
Nah, he's just like any other 23 yo with money... expensive toys are a must. Must be an easy life... *sigh* |
Mo Money, Mo problems.
Post Title: Re: (unleashedd)
Posted by: dontblockthebox at 6:40 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by unleashedd » |
| this guy makes (not sure) and wastes money. contributes nothing to society. so good for him. people dont get into science, medicine, and the like for cash |
agree but its also nice to think that the american dream of prospering through hard work and honest virtues still exists; that our society still values those who sought to promote a positive change. i see an increasing trend of negativity for professions that helped make this country as great as it is. case in point, when you hear the words "Doctor" or "Lawyer" or both in the same sentence, not all your thoughts are positive ones, are they?
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Posted by: DedRok at 6:50 PM 6/30/2009
Secondly, I knew a girl that at the age of 20, had a Ferrari 360, Hummer H2, Mercedes-Benz SL500 and among other toys. What did it cost her? The death of her two parents in a bus crash when she was a baby. Last I heard she got fake tits and moved to Florida or California or something.
Modified by DedRok at 7:55 PM 6-30-2009
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (spockcat)
Posted by: MGQ at 7:00 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by spockcat » |
| another player named Cody Leibel, so the Cody Leibel being discussed here never played ice hockey as a junior or minor league pro. |
It does seem odd that there are two men of the same name who own the same cars, an enzo and a yellow 550 barchetta... 
Post Title: Re: (DedRok)
Posted by: adriansaysstfu at 7:00 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by DedRok » |
| With a Ferrari Enzo at age 23, I'd probably contract the aids virus 5 times over. Secondly, I knew a girl that at the age of 20, had a Ferrari 360, Hummer H2, Mercedes-Benz SL500 and among other toys. What did it cost her? The death of her two parents in a bus crash when she was a baby. Last I heard she got fake tits and moved to Florida or California or something.
|
What kind of toys?
Post Title: Re: (adriansaysstfu)
Posted by: DedRok at 7:05 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by adriansaysstfu » |
What kind of toys? |
Haha
But really, I remember she had a Nissan Silvia, Black '05 Civic, and some type of truck that was jacked up with huge tires.
She had the '05 Civic before she turned 18, and when she did turn 18, the money was unlocked (life insurance I assume) and she recieved an amount that I do not know of. One of the first things she bought was a $100,000+ Mercedes-Benz SL500... still in highschool.
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Posted by: Matt D. at 7:07 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by sandiegan » |
| C-Note Records seems to be non-existent Vapor-Record-Label? |
Whos on the label?
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (Brimjolt)
Posted by: carfanguy at 7:12 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Brimjolt » |
| the dudes knee deep in pu-ssy |
Im sure they are high quality tanned too.
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Posted by: Soze.K at 7:24 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by damion16v » |
| Why do so many celebreties have the flashiest of cars, yet the Camry-est homes? Beige and banality everywhere (structure aside). |
I asked a friend who is a high end real estate agent the same thing. It's usually because they buy and sell them so much that they never put their own personal mark on the place.
Post Title: Re: (DedRok)
Posted by: vwpiloto at 7:40 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by DedRok » |
I knew a girl that at the age of 20, had a Ferrari 360, Hummer H2, Mercedes-Benz SL500 and among other toys. Last I heard she got fake tits and moved to Florida or California or something.
|
Can you PM me her number?
Post Title: Re: (carfanguy)
Posted by: eddie291 at 7:49 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by carfanguy » |
Whos on the label? |
http://www.cduniverse.com/sear...-Note
So basically, a rap label, that hasn't had any major acts since the 90s. I'm not too familiar with rap, but I'm pretty sure Luniz is/was their biggest act. They had that one hit in the 90s called "I got 5 on it".
Post Title: Re: (eddie291)
Posted by: Matt D. at 7:51 PM 6/30/2009
| Quote, originally posted by eddie291 » |
| A Google search brings this up: http://www.cduniverse.com/sear...-Note So basically, a rap label, that hasn't had any major acts since the 90s. I'm not too familiar with rap, but I'm pretty sure Luniz is/was their biggest act. They had that one hit in the 90s called "I got 5 on it". |
Well, all of those acts are flat broke, so it's safe to assume how those exotics were bought.
Post Title: Re: (Matt D.)
Posted by: Paneer at 8:07 PM 6/30/2009
Also I couldn't find a website for this label at all. Tax front?
Post Title: Re: (venom600)
Posted by: damion16v at 1:31 PM 7/1/2009
| Quote, originally posted by carfanguy » |
Whos on the label? |
| Quote, originally posted by drhavoc » |
| http://www.luxist.com/2009/06/...-day/ His House is for sale |
nice to know that the exact washer and dryer i have are acceptable in a multi-million dollar house 
Post Title: Re: FV-QR (Hostile)
Posted by: konigwheels at 2:32 PM 7/1/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Hostile » |
It's not just the clothes, it's the b-boy stance.
Grade A douche. |
This house is one of the ugliest I've ever seen, money surely cannot buy you taste.
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (drewSAAB95)
Posted by: evil4bc at 2:37 PM 7/1/2009
| Quote, originally posted by drewSAAB95 » |
| I was curious after reading about this kid and can't seem to find much of anything about C-Note, other than a few hip-hop releases in the mid 90's. It makes me think that somehow I think the elder Lorne Leibel, who lives in Canada (where the Enzo in the article was being trucked to), is who actually owns the two Enzos, the Barchetta, the soon to be purchased MC12, etc.. I also saw something that Lorne owns FXX no. 146359. |
Shinanigans - Rich parents who own a record company and let their Son be the public figure who get's all the puplicity !!
Build the company yourself from NO money and I might consider giving you some respect .
Oh and a ENNZO doesnt comand respect when it was bought for you by your Dad 
Post Title: FV-QR
Posted by: vdubjb at 3:13 PM 7/1/2009
| Quote, originally posted by venom600 » |
I asked a friend who is a high end real estate agent the same thing. It's usually because they buy and sell them so much that they never put their own personal mark on the place. |
Actually the banks require it. Neutral colors are easier to sell after they forclose.
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (HaterSlayer)
Posted by: Dawg Dee-Lux at 3:26 PM 7/1/2009
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (HaterSlayer)
Posted by: Dawg Dee-Lux at 3:28 PM 7/1/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Zz_Radish_zZ » |
| Thought in the back of my mind: "This engineering degree better pay off, or else I'm going to be pretty pissed spending all those Friday nights and weekends in the engineering building." |
I don't know if your father ever had that talk with you or not, but if he didn't, allow me:
"Son. You don't get money for your hard work, you get money for your value. If you're gonna work your butt off doing something, make sure it's something a lot of people want, and not a lot of people can do."
Followed by:
"If you value your sanity, don't go into the entertainment or arts for a career because getting rich there is like winning the lottery, except with the whole world thinking you owe them something for getting your fortune."
Post Title: Re: (WhatBlueVW)
Posted by: WhatBlueVW at 4:10 PM 7/1/2009
A great engineer who is amazingly valuable will make twice that easily with some making 10x that if they own their own company or become CTOs.
The number of engineers making millions is right there with the number of atheletes or entertainers making millions.
Post Title: FV-QR
Posted by: Kid Hobo at 4:17 PM 7/1/2009
| Quote, originally posted by eddie291 » |
| A Google search brings this up: http://www.cduniverse.com/sear...-Note So basically, a rap label, that hasn't had any major acts since the 90s. I'm not too familiar with rap, but I'm pretty sure Luniz is/was their biggest act. They had that one hit in the 90s called "I got 5 on it". |
thats the first thing i did, i looked up who was on his label that hes got so much damn money. Its slim pickings currently. The Luniz One hit wonder and Dru-down seem to be the biggest money draws. i mean i actually listen to rap and know who these guys are and i am left wondering how the **** he has so much money on a label with has-beens as the main stable. Im sure "ive got 5 on it" gets alot of residuals since it was a commercial smash but ****in A, no way he should be pulling down that kinda money from the Label alone.
Parents (as stated previously) had to foot those bills.
Modified by VMPhil at 2:39 PM 7-1-2009
Post Title: Re: (WhatBlueVW)
Posted by: justanotherusername at 6:31 PM 7/1/2009
| Quote, originally posted by WhatBlueVW » |
| As a followup on the engineering front: A decently valuable engineer makes about 80-100k a year, so over the course of their lives, they make around 5mil+ they get healthcare, etc. With good retirement management, they can get away with about 8 mil. A great engineer who is amazingly valuable will make twice that easily with some making 10x that if they own their own company or become CTOs. The number of engineers making millions is right there with the number of atheletes or entertainers making millions. |
The real difference is the timeframe. An engineer doesn't make millions all at once over a few albums or a 5 year contract, like atheletes or entertainers do. We spend our whole lives working for it. There's a big difference in lifestyle between the two.
Post Title: Re: FV-QR (true snowboards)
Posted by: noznab at 6:59 PM 7/1/2009
| Quote, originally posted by true snowboards » |
why buy one for $1.2million when you can buy two for twice the price? |
Why have billions when you can have.....millions?
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (helement2003)
Posted by: butterface at 7:03 PM 7/1/2009
| Quote, originally posted by helement2003 » |
nice to know that the exact washer and dryer i have are acceptable in a multi-million dollar house |
Does your husband also post on vortex?
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (drhavoc)
Posted by: BrianGriffin at 12:45 AM 7/2/2009
trust fund douche. end of story
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Posted by: Internal Combustion at 7:36 AM 7/2/2009
The kid has a rich dad, but he's at least doing some work. He drives 2 enzos and you all are ripping on him, its not like he's rolling around in some baller status car on 24"s, its not like the Enzo is a comfortable daily driver or anything. He knows what he's doing if he picks TWO enzos and a MC12 as his cars.
This place is ridiculous. Just because my dad has bought me my cars, pays for school and helped me get started on owning a house doesn't mean that a) I'm worthless as a human b) some trust fund kid that doesn't know what a $ is or c) a brat. It's the reason why people go to school and get jobs, so they can take care of their kids. My dad did that and I'll do the same if I can.
Now you all post up your houses, cars and stations in life so that we can all tear them to shreds too.
Post Title: Re: (Internal Combustion)
Posted by: justanotherusername at 7:47 AM 7/2/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Internal Combustion » |
| This isn't even thinly veiled jealousy. Its not the kid's fault that his dad is his dad. People that come from privileged backgrounds don't choose them just as much as people from poor backgrounds don't choose them either. The kid has a rich dad, but he's at least doing some work. He drives 2 enzos and you all are ripping on him, its not like he's rolling around in some baller status car on 24"s, its not like the Enzo is a comfortable daily driver or anything. He knows what he's doing if he picks TWO enzos and a MC12 as his cars. This place is ridiculous. Just because my dad has bought me my cars, pays for school and helped me get started on owning a house doesn't mean that a) I'm worthless as a human b) some trust fund kid that doesn't know what a $ is or c) a brat. It's the reason why people go to school and get jobs, so they can take care of their kids. My dad did that and I'll do the same if I can. Now you all post up your houses, cars and stations in life so that we can all tear them to shreds too. |
Giving a 23 year old that kind of money is doing him a disservice. He damn sure DOES NOT know the value of a dollar, or the work it takes to get one, and it's pretty likely that he'll either:
A) Get himself killed in one of those cars.
B) Go bankrupt once he's been kicked out of the nest.
I blame the parents more than I do the kid, but ANYONE giving that kind of play money to a 23 year old should be shot.
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Posted by: locobaz23 at 7:49 AM 7/2/2009
| Quote, originally posted by justanotherusername » |
A) Get himself killed in one of those cars. I blame the parents more than I do the kid, but ANYONE giving that kind of play money to a 23 year old should be shot. |
Please.
He's right- all this is just blatant jealousy. But it's standard practice in TCL to post up a picture of a young guy with an expensive car, and have everyone judge them based on that one picture and some internet sleuthing. Fact of the matter is, 99.9% of TCL would love to be in this kids shoes.
And actually, moving beyond that point...it's hilarious how some groups rail on others for stereotypical looks, when they themselves are a stereotype unto themselves.
Post Title: Re: (locobaz23)
Posted by: ZoomBoy at 7:53 AM 7/2/2009
| Quote, originally posted by locobaz23 » |
| My 23 year old neighbor, 3 yrs ago, had a Gallordo Spyder, M5, older 911 Turbo, and an AM V8. He said he had a great job...... |
Post Title: Re: (ZoomBoy)
Posted by: locobaz23 at 8:00 AM 7/2/2009
| Quote, originally posted by ZoomBoy » |
|
His dad lives in the same neighborhood that Tiger Woods, Shaq, etc live...
Post Title: Re: (deucestudios)
Posted by: VrstewartW at 8:05 AM 7/2/2009
| Quote, originally posted by deucestudios » |
It's not what you know. It's who. |
I wish I knew more rich/famous people
Post Title: Re: (Internal Combustion)
Posted by: MGQ at 3:02 PM 7/2/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Internal Combustion » |
| My dad did that and I'll do the same if I can. |
I think what I see here isn't so much jealousy as it is people being annoyed. Did you read the article? its all about ridiculous levels of consumption, How much attention you get in exotic cars, how much money the guy spends, and his "party" lifestyle. It wasn't even a car guy article.
If the guy said, "my family has money" he would garner less ridicule than "he's actually the owner of his own label called C-Note Productions" as if that bankrolls millions of dollars in houses, cars and jewelery. It didn't work for Scott Storch and he had some skill and famous clients apparently.
I don't think anyone on here gets upset when someone else says "hey my parents put me through college". However, lots of people on here do get annoyed when a poster shows up with a fairly nice luxury/sports car and prattles on about how young they are and how nice/prestigious their car is, and it usually ends up being discovered that the person is a phony, passing their wealth off as something that they've earned themselves or whatever.
You could argue that the car lounge isn't entitled to know those details, or shouldn't judge people based on them, but I think its more about the attitude than the possessions. This is why most people here go on and on about what a great guy Jay Leno is even though we can only dream to be in his position.
Post Title: Re: (justanotherusername)
Posted by: WhatBlueVW at 4:26 PM 7/2/2009
| Quote, originally posted by justanotherusername » |
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I'm saying that an avarage decently valuable engineer makes as much as a normal pro athelete or "one hit wonder" musician, with the difference being that the career of the athelete or musician is at most a decade while the career of the engineer goes 30+ years.
On the other hand, there are as many engineers making millions in a year as there are rock stars or atheletes.
Plus, there isn't a sea of starving engineers like there are cafe musicians and back lot atheletes. All told, engineers do get something for their hard work even if it doesn't automatically get them a Ferrari.
Post Title: Re: (WhatBlueVW)
Posted by: Kessler at 4:44 PM 7/2/2009
| Quote, originally posted by WhatBlueVW » |
I'm saying that an avarage decently valuable engineer makes as much as a normal pro athelete or "one hit wonder" musician, |
WTH are you talking about? The average salary of an engineer is nowhere near that of a "normal" pro athlete or that of a one-hit wonder musician. And I have no idea what a "normal" pro athlete is -a second-string special teamer? Back-up point guard for the Clippers? You wish a decently valuable engineer could command a salary close to that of the NBA/NFL league minimum. If a "decently valuable" engineer is commanding a salary close to that of any pro athlete, best believe they're either an entrepreneur or business person WITH an engineering background who have broken away from the typical ranks of the engineering industry. As far as music goes, plenty of one-hit wonder musicians are still eating off of music they created decades ago through royalties and licensing deals.
Modified by Matt D. at 2:51 PM 7-2-2009
Post Title: Re: (Matt D.)
Posted by: WhatBlueVW at 5:19 PM 7/2/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Matt D. » |
WTH are you talking about? The average salary of an engineer is nowhere near that of a "normal" pro athlete or that of a one-hit wonder musician. And I have no idea what a "normal" pro athlete is -a second-string special teamer? Back-up point guard for the Clippers? You wish a decently valuable engineer could command a salary close to that of the NBA/NFL league minimum. If a "decently valuable" engineer is commanding a salary close to that of any pro athlete, best believe they're either an entrepreneur or business person WITH an engineering background who have broken away from the typical ranks of the engineering industry. As far as music goes, plenty of one-hit wonder musicians are still eating off of music they created decades ago through royalties and licensing deals.
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Minimum slary in NBA and NFL starts at around 400k to 600k and end at around 1 million. Most atheletes have an 8 year career. So all told they make about 6-8 million over their career. Sure it's over a shorter period of time, but most of them are not savvy enough to understand the implications of that and usually end up spending it all unwisely and not having much the rest of their lives.
There is no breaking away from usual ranks in engineering. Almost every one of the the "entrepreneurs" did their due in normal jobs before they moved up and out.
Royalties and licensing deals pay for jack for most pop stars.
Post Title: Re: (AutoEuphoria)
Posted by: Kessler at 5:38 PM 7/2/2009
| Quote, originally posted by AutoEuphoria » |
| Good for him! Good to see someone achieve success at an age that will allow him to enjoy it for a while, or allow him to rebuild if he ever loses it. Always good to see an American success story |
He's Canadian. The only success story is his Dad's. He moved down with daddies money and has been living the good life on his dime ever since.
Modified by Kessler at 11:43 PM 7-2-2009
Post Title: Re: (WhatBlueVW)
Posted by: Matt D. at 5:47 PM 7/2/2009
| Quote, originally posted by WhatBlueVW » |
Minimum slary in NBA and NFL starts at around 400k to 600k and end at around 1 million. Most atheletes have an 8 year career. So all told they make about 6-8 million over their career. Sure it's over a shorter period of time, but most of them are not savvy enough to understand the implications of that and usually end up spending it all unwisely and not having much the rest of their lives. There is no breaking away from usual ranks in engineering. Almost every one of the the "entrepreneurs" did their due in normal jobs before they moved up and out. Royalties and licensing deals pay for jack for most pop stars. |
Yeah, but the issue is comparing salary and not who will manage their money better. Plenty of people with law degrees, for example, only go to law school to navigate business practices better. Someone with an interest in engineering may use that degree as a basic understanding of an industry but may have an affinity for the business side. So, yes. One can break away.
Modified by Matt D. at 3:48 PM 7-2-2009
Post Title: Re: (Internal Combustion)
Posted by: VMPhil at 9:29 PM 7/2/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Internal Combustion » |
| This isn't even thinly veiled jealousy. Its not the kid's fault that his dad is his dad. People that come from privileged backgrounds don't choose them just as much as people from poor backgrounds don't choose them either. The kid has a rich dad, but he's at least doing some work. He drives 2 enzos and you all are ripping on him, its not like he's rolling around in some baller status car on 24"s, its not like the Enzo is a comfortable daily driver or anything. He knows what he's doing if he picks TWO enzos and a MC12 as his cars. This place is ridiculous. Just because my dad has bought me my cars, pays for school and helped me get started on owning a house doesn't mean that a) I'm worthless as a human b) some trust fund kid that doesn't know what a $ is or c) a brat. It's the reason why people go to school and get jobs, so they can take care of their kids. My dad did that and I'll do the same if I can. Now you all post up your houses, cars and stations in life so that we can all tear them to shreds too. |
How long have you been here? The Car Lounge..hell the internet is wrought with such criticism. I was only commenting on the fact that his label and current stable of artists could not have earned him as much as he is spending.
Post Title: Re: (WhatBlueVW)
Posted by: VMPhil at 9:31 PM 7/2/2009
| Quote, originally posted by WhatBlueVW » |
Minimum slary in NBA and NFL starts at around 400k to 600k and end at around 1 million. Most atheletes have an 8 year career. So all told they make about 6-8 million over their career. Sure it's over a shorter period of time, but most of them are not savvy enough to understand the implications of that and usually end up spending it all unwisely and not having much the rest of their lives. There is no breaking away from usual ranks in engineering. Almost every one of the the "entrepreneurs" did their due in normal jobs before they moved up and out. Royalties and licensing deals pay for jack for most pop stars. |
not sure about NFL but NBA veteran minimum is $276k a year.
Post Title: Re: FV-QR (Hostile)
Posted by: 346cid at 10:09 PM 7/2/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Hostile » |
It's not just the clothes, it's the b-boy stance.
Grade A douche. |
| Quote, originally posted by 346cid » |
is that poster of that teen vampire movie? |
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Posted by: Anon1210 at 10:30 PM 7/2/2009
Anyways yeah you can tell from just looking at the kid he's not self-made. He cares too much and gives off a desperate plz like-me vibe.
But I certainly don't envy him, his parents prob expect a lot out of him and it's unlikely he'll be ever be able to live up to his dad, financially at least.
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (Vision33r)
Posted by: Adam144 at 11:00 PM 7/2/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Vision33r » |
| I'll be waiting for that "Young rich then broke" story from this kid. |
A La Scott Storch?
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (Adam144)
Posted by: mk_ultra at 11:13 PM 7/2/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Internal Combustion » |
| This isn't even thinly veiled jealousy. Its not the kid's fault that his dad is his dad. People that come from privileged backgrounds don't choose them just as much as people from poor backgrounds don't choose them either. ... This place is ridiculous. Just because my dad has bought me my cars, pays for school and helped me get started on owning a house doesn't mean that a) I'm worthless as a human b) some trust fund kid that doesn't know what a $ is or c) a brat. It's the reason why people go to school and get jobs, so they can take care of their kids. My dad did that and I'll do the same if I can. |
This is one of the more intelligent things I've heard on here.
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (HaterSlayer)
Posted by: VWRulez at 12:56 AM 7/3/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Matt D. » |
WTH are you talking about? The average salary of an engineer is nowhere near that of a "normal" pro athlete or that of a one-hit wonder musician. And I have no idea what a "normal" pro athlete is -a second-string special teamer? Back-up point guard for the Clippers? You wish a decently valuable engineer could command a salary close to that of the NBA/NFL league minimum. If a "decently valuable" engineer is commanding a salary close to that of any pro athlete, best believe they're either an entrepreneur or business person WITH an engineering background who have broken away from the typical ranks of the engineering industry. As far as music goes, plenty of one-hit wonder musicians are still eating off of music they created decades ago through royalties and licensing deals.
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Seriously
I know of a cat who none of you heard of that did some production with Goldie and Bjork back in the 90s. Still living nicely off of it. People really underestimate how much and how many ways one can make money from entertainment. You don't even need a "hit", really.
BTW, depending on what this C-Note's contracts state, it wouldn't surprise me if he actually had a lot of money from those 90s joints.
Modified by crannky at 11:22 PM 7-3-2009
Post Title: Re: Youngest Enzo Owner is 23 (true snowboards)
Posted by: jetta PWR at 10:47 PM 7/3/2009
It is just an example of how there's an upper capitalist elite, you'll never be one of them, they control politics through straight up bribes or lobbyists, get tax breaks and pay literally nothing most of the time, and most people will never reach anywhere near this level of wealth and will continue being taken advantage of so they can make more money.
Yeah, good for him. Yay.
No wonder people's first instinct is to flame him.
Post Title: Re: FV-QR (-Khaos-)
Posted by: butterface at 11:30 PM 7/3/2009
| Quote, originally posted by -Khaos- » |
It is just an example of how there's an upper capitalist elite, you'll never be one of them, they control politics through straight up bribes or lobbyists, get tax breaks and pay literally nothing most of the time, and most people will never reach anywhere near this level of wealth and will continue being taken advantage of so they can make more money. Yeah, good for him. Yay. No wonder people's first instinct is to flame him. |
His dad should just give all of his money to everyone he's exploited in the name of capitalism. Damn the man! Viva la revolucion!
Modified by butterface at 12:35 AM 7-4-2009
Post Title: Re: (Soze.K)
Posted by: Rob. at 11:40 PM 7/3/2009
| Quote, originally posted by -Khaos- » |
| anyone who thinks this guy worked really hard, came from nothing, and now owns everything; and that this is proof positive that this country is a shiny beacon of hope for all people the world over and a brilliant example of how capitalism can work for everyone needs to be shot. It is just an example of how there's an upper capitalist elite, you'll never be one of them, they control politics through straight up bribes or lobbyists, get tax breaks and pay literally nothing most of the time, and most people will never reach anywhere near this level of wealth and will continue being taken advantage of so they can make more money. Yeah, good for him. Yay. No wonder people's first instinct is to flame him. |
I've never understood the attacks on people who get nice stuff thanks to their parents. So what? Rich kids will have problems in their lives just like the rest of us. It just so happens that money does not seem to be one of his. Its what they choose to do with their good fortune that actually matters.
Post Title: FV-QR
Posted by: -Khaos- at 1:14 AM 7/4/2009
| Quote, originally posted by g60roddo » |
I've never understood the attacks on people who get nice stuff thanks to their parents. So what? Rich kids will have problems in their lives just like the rest of us. It just so happens that money does not seem to be one of his. Its what they choose to do with their good fortune that actually matters. |
I suppose being born to a rich parent is good luck, but the way they made money has nothing to do with luck.
Face it, in this country there are a few very, very, very rich people, the rest are "middle class" (no such thing really, at best "lower middle" class), then poor people.
So, to answer your question, people get pissed not at the individual, but at the glaring inequalities set forth in the culture they live in. At 23 most people would be ecstatic to catch a glimpse of one of these cars. He has a multitude of them and lives in a mansion. No, nothing wrong with that at all. Perfectly natural.
Post Title: Re: (crannky)
Posted by: Kessler at 1:41 AM 7/4/2009
| Quote, originally posted by crannky » |
BTW, depending on what this C-Note's contracts state, it wouldn't surprise me if he actually had a lot of money from those 90s joints. |
The guy is 23. That company hasn't done anything since the 90's. Are you suggesting he launched and then guided a hip-hop production company to moderate success all by age 12?
His Dad bought him a washed up company to toy with. That's pretty obvious.
Post Title: Re: FV-QR (-Khaos-)
Posted by: TheSSG at 2:54 AM 7/4/2009
| Quote, originally posted by -Khaos- » |
| anyone who thinks this guy worked really hard, came from nothing, and now owns everything; and that this is proof positive that this country is a shiny beacon of hope for all people the world over and a brilliant example of how capitalism can work for everyone needs to be shot. It is just an example of how there's an upper capitalist elite, you'll never be one of them, they control politics through straight up bribes or lobbyists, get tax breaks and pay literally nothing most of the time, and most people will never reach anywhere near this level of wealth and will continue being taken advantage of so they can make more money. Yeah, good for him. Yay. No wonder people's first instinct is to flame him. |
Shhh, the young Republicans may hear you.
Fact is, the dirty Conservatives (Hey, those guys act like "liberal" is an insult, why can't I do the same?) LOVE people like this; the ILLUSION of "Rags to riches" is the most powerful myth in American Society.
Why else do poor people all around the country support lowering the taxes of the rich, or cutting their own services, or not get upset and INSANE inequalities of wealth?
They have been convinced that it is in THEIR best interests to defend the rich, because "one day" they, too, will be rich. Cause it's a secret club, and if you work for them, and believe in them, they will reward you!
Or, through your hard work, determination, and your monstrously amassed debt (shhh, this one is a secret cause lots of Entrepreneurs make it because they have enough of a trust, etc to use as capital), you too can be an entrepreneur just like them! Cause when you are poor, reach for the stars, and are ripped to shreds by the Debt F.L.A.K. cannon, that just makes for depressing news...so let's not talk about that...
And don't forget, there's always the lottery!
That's a double-whammy! Pays taxes on the underfunded schools (educated masses of wage-slaves = revolutions), AND it gives the wage-slaves a mental escape to the realization that they have been born into debt, and will increase that debt exponentially any time they try and escape their caste.
But, play it cool, just say "good for him" cause you need to show everyone how "secure" you are in yourself.
Cause social injustice is nothing to be angry about....that's why we get booze and TV! Go rich people! I can't wait to be one of them!
Anyone who scorns injustice is simply "jealous" or a "communist".
And this is 'Merica! We don't like Commies! They think the world would be so great if people got the same chance in life! LOSERS! TERRORISTS!
Why can't they just shut up and accept that everyone gets TOLD they have a fair shot at life, and everyone starts the race at different points.
Yes, the guy who starts 5ft in front of the finish line has it easy, but gosh darn it, if you work 15,000X harder than he does, you can still lose to him....but only BARELY!!!!
Why should two people who work equally hard be rewarded similarly?
Everyone knows it's the fair thing to do when you reward the people born wealthy 100X more than the people who work 25X harder than the trust-fund baby can even imagine is possible...
That's just how it is! Who wants to WORK towards MAKING a society that rewards equal effort with equal rewards....ewwww
The WHOLE point of 'Merican society is to get to the top....that's where you do the least but get the most! Well, to be fair, you aren't "working" but you have "responsibility."
But then, when you F*** up your "responsibility," don't worry, cause the poor people will bail you out of your mistakes...cause it's not your fault...you don't have much experience with consequences....
To Philantropy
:throatslit: To Selfishly Hording money
Post Title: Re: FV-QR (TheSSG)
Posted by: g60roddo at 8:20 AM 7/4/2009
I do agree with one thing you said-philanthropy. swimming in cash and not helping anyone else out- particularly the world's true poor that make 99% of our "poor" look like kings- is not cool.
Post Title: FV-QR
Posted by: lowredcabrio at 8:41 AM 7/4/2009
If they donate money to anything they have a freakin' parade and media circus in their honour. Why don't people realise this is merely a marketing strategy? By donating not only are they avoiding the taxman (either give it to charity and look good or give it to the gov't) but they promote themsevles further towards making even more money.
If Oprah was such a ****ing humanitarian why doesn't she live in a modest home (upper-middle class), drive an average car and have normal clothes etc.
These celebrities who simply act like environmentalists and humanitarians could single handedly shape countries and eliminate poverty with their millions and billions of dollars. But no. They've gotta have a HUGE mansion and flashy cars.
Them donating a million to a charity is relevant in salary to me putting $20 in the Salvation Army donation bucket at Christmas. Nobody gives me a ****in' cookie for it.
Post Title: Re: (Kessler)
Posted by: crannky at 9:57 AM 7/4/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Kessler » |
The guy is 23. That company hasn't done anything since the 90's. Are you suggesting he launched and then guided a hip-hop production company to moderate success all by age 12? His Dad bought him a washed up company to toy with. That's pretty obvious. |
No I'm suggesting that his dad set him up with a label that, despite relative anonymity, could very well have made a good amount of money depending on what their contracts stipulated.
Post Title: Re: FV-QR (g60roddo)
Posted by: crannky at 9:59 AM 7/4/2009
| Quote, originally posted by g60roddo » |
| My God, you guys give money way too much credit. Do you not realize it is just as easy, or perhaps even easier for our "middle class" and "poor" to live a more fulfilling life than someone born into riches? I feel sorry for those who measure themselves by how fast their car is or the square footage of their house. I do agree with one thing you said-philanthropy. swimming in cash and not helping anyone else out- particularly the world's true poor that make 99% of our "poor" look like kings- is not cool. |
People keep saying that, but from what I see 9 out of 10 problems have to do with money.
Post Title: Re: FV-QR (TheSSG)
Posted by: crannky at 10:04 AM 7/4/2009
| Quote, originally posted by TheSSG » |
Fact is, the dirty Conservatives (Hey, those guys act like "liberal" is an insult, why can't I do the same?) LOVE people like this; the ILLUSION of "Rags to riches" is the most powerful myth in American Society. They have been convinced that it is in THEIR best interests to defend the rich, because "one day" they, too, will be rich. Cause it's a secret club, and if you work for them, and believe in them, they will reward you! Or, through your hard work, determination, and your monstrously amassed debt (shhh, this one is a secret cause lots of Entrepreneurs make it because they have enough of a trust, etc to use as capital), you too can be an entrepreneur just like them! Cause when you are poor, reach for the stars, and are ripped to shreds by the Debt F.L.A.K. cannon, that just makes for depressing news...so let's not talk about that...
And this is 'Merica! We don't like Commies! They think the world would be so great if people got the same chance in life! LOSERS! TERRORISTS! Why should two people who work equally hard be rewarded similarly? The WHOLE point of 'Merican society is to get to the top....that's where you do the least but get the most! Well, to be fair, you aren't "working" but you have "responsibility."
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Post Title: Re: FV-QR (-Khaos-)
Posted by: FBMphil at 10:22 AM 7/4/2009
| Quote, originally posted by -Khaos- » |
| anyone who thinks this guy worked really hard, came from nothing, and now owns everything; and that this is proof positive that this country is a shiny beacon of hope for all people the world over and a brilliant example of how capitalism can work for everyone needs to be shot. It is just an example of how there's an upper capitalist elite, you'll never be one of them, they control politics through straight up bribes or lobbyists, get tax breaks and pay literally nothing most of the time, and most people will never reach anywhere near this level of wealth and will continue being taken advantage of so they can make more money. Yeah, good for him. Yay. No wonder people's first instinct is to flame him. |
I'm not flaming because I would do the same thing, except *I* would rub it in all of your faces a hell of a lot more.
*puts Enzo into a wall at a track day...on purpose*
Post Title: Re: FV-QR (crannky)
Posted by: g60roddo at 10:26 AM 7/4/2009
| Quote, originally posted by crannky » |
People keep saying that, but from what I see 9 out of 10 problems have to do with money. |
problems are replaced with other problems...