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      Next-generation Nissan Z

      It's the First Friday of the Apocalypse and I want to talk about cars, not zombie prep, so here goes...

      Did you know that Nissan is working on an all-new replacement for the 300Z? I've collected some snippets below.

      Discuss!

      Trademark for retro-inspired Nissan Z logo surfaces

      Nissan is working on a new generation of its Z sports car. The first test mules surfaced late last year which points to a market arrival in late 2021 or early the following year.

      We possibly now have our first look at the new Z logo that will feature on the car.

      Nissan filed for trademark protection of this stylized “Z” with several intellectual property registries around the globe, including Canada. A filing with the Canadian Intellectual Property Office was made on March 12, as first discovered by New Nissan Z forum.



      Alongside the new Z logo, Nissan filed trademark protection for a revised version of its own logo. The new logo takes on a more minimalist look whose flat design is also better suited for digital materials.

      Next-generation Nissan Z reportedly has 400 hp, retro design

      The current Nissan 370Z made its debut for the 2009 model year. It's the definition of long in the tooth. Sounds like that's about to change.

      On Thursday, AutoBlog reported dealer sources who saw the car at dealer meeting said work is underway at Nissan on the next-generation Z car, and it will reportedly be powered by a turbocharged V-6 and feature a retro design.

      The car shown at a dealer meeting apparently has an overall shape similar to the current Z, but its new design cherry picks from the legendary sports car's past. The front is said to feature round headlights and a square grille that both recall the original 240Z, while the rear features taillights inspired by the Z32 300ZX, which would make them horizontal.

      Inside, the current Z can only be described as either simple or dated. Perhaps both. The next-generation car will reportedly bring the icon into the modern era with a design similar to that of the latest Altima and Sentra. We can only hope this is not entirely true as neither of those are sports cars.

      Power output is said to increase to around 400 horsepower thanks to a twin-turbocharged 3.0-liter V-6 cribbed from the Infiniti Q50 and Q60 400 Red Sport. While Infiniti hooks that engine to a 7-speed automatic transmission AutoBlog's sources said a manual transmission will be on the menu for those who #GiveAShift.

      Nissan might have given everyone a preview of this powertrain in a current 370Z with a 2020 SEMA show concept.

      A new NISMO version with close to 500 horsepower is likely in the cards at some point, though it's unclear if Nissan will simply crank up the boost or use electrification to create more power.

      AutoBlog said the next-generation Z's debut could still be a year or two out, but what might be a powertrain mule was spotted turning laps at the Nürburgring in October.

      The man known as "Mr. GT-R," Hiroshi Tamura, chief product specialist for the GT-R and NISMO, told Motor Authority in 2019 the future of the GT-R and the Z would be shaped by customers. Sounds like customers said they want the Z to return to its roots in terms of looks and deliver more power.
      2021 Nissan Z: What We Know So Far
      A redesign is finally coming for Nissan's iconic sports car, and it sounds promising.


      Meaninngless Illustration by Radovan Varicak

      • Twin-Turbo V-6 Power
      • Rear-Wheel Drive, as God Intended
      • Retro Styling
      • Hopefully Still Affordable


      The current 370Z starts at just $31,015 and remains a decent performance bargain today despite its age. While there's no doubt in our mind that the new model will see a significant price uptick, we're guessing (and hoping) that the new Z will start somewhere in the $40,000 range, which would undercut the Toyota Supra by a few thousand dollars.

      All signs point to the new Nissan Z's arrival being imminent. Our suspicion is that it will make its first appearance sometime later in 2020, going on sale in the U.S. as a 2021 model either at the end of this year or early next year. We can't wait to see it for real.

      https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...z-future-2021/
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      1972 Datsun 240Z



      2020 Nissan 370Z

      Last edited by Sporin; 03-20-2020 at 09:44 AM.

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      I’m still skeptical that this will happen and depending on how hard this financial crisis hits and how long it lasts, Nissan might have to ice it. But... I am paying attention and somewhat hopeful. If they can offer cleaner styling than the Supra and undercut the starting price by $5K, I would have to seriously consider it.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Seabird View Post
      I’m still skeptical that this will happen and depending on how hard this financial crisis hits and how long it lasts, Nissan might have to ice it. But... I am paying attention and somewhat hopeful. If they can offer cleaner styling than the Supra and undercut the starting price by $5K, I would have to seriously consider it.
      Yeah, I think the sweet spot for this car will be right in the middle of the BRZ/86 and the Supra.

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      The new Z rendering has a Toyota fascia.

      Looks pretty good, though.

      No collaboration with another automaker? What does Nissan know about the sport coupe market that Toyota doesn't?


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      Quote Originally Posted by Lwize View Post
      No collaboration with another automaker? What does Nissan know about the sport coupe market that Toyota doesn't?

      Is this being built on an Infiniti platform? Possibly shared with the next Q50?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lwize View Post
      The new Z rendering has a Toyota fascia.
      Huh? Looks way more Hyundai/Kia then anything from Toyota.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Lwize View Post
      The new Z rendering has a Toyota fascia.

      Looks pretty good, though.
      I mean... it's a rendering from someone at C&D, not Nissan, I wouldn't put too much stock in any of it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Hostile View Post
      Huh? Looks way more Hyundai/Kia then anything from Toyota.
      Technically it’s a Mazda, but:


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      Would you people PLEASE stop typing those symbols before the "R"!!
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      I'd love to see it. If they're smart about it, they go for an inbetweener.

      On one end you have the Toyobaru Twins on the other end the Supra/Mustang etc. I'm sure they also don't want to step on the Q60's toes.

      This should be a car with it's eyes on lightness and the drive with an entry 4 banger, then the 3.0t at 300, and NISMO with the 3.0t at 400+. Weight should be 3200-3500 (any less is just not realistic at this level these days, although if they can then more power to them), and MSRPs ranging from $35K-$50K.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Rakshas View Post
      Technically it’s a Mazda, but:
      That is a Toyota fascia on a Mazda - so, technically, it's a Toyota (still)

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      Quote Originally Posted by GLI Dan View Post
      This should be a car with it's eyes on lightness and the drive with an entry 4 banger, then the 3.0t at 300, and NISMO with the 3.0t at 400+. Weight should be 3200-3500 (any less is just not realistic at this level these days, although if they can then more power to them), and MSRPs ranging from $35K-$50K.
      I don't think they'd deliver the 400hp engine at $35k but perhaps a naturally aspirated base model, twin turbo Sport trim closer to $50k, Nismo above that, and honestly I'd love to see a return of an $80k GT-R on such a platform with the larger displacement, 600+ horsepower, AWD, DSG, and so on.

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      Sweet. I'm in. The more sports cars, or even sporty cars that are coupes the better.

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      There is no way it will be $35k. At least up in Canada, people are used to the Z being a $50-60k (albeit CAD) car. It is "exclusive" in a sense.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Sporin View Post

      Did you know that Nissan is working on an all-new replacement for the 300Z? I've collected some snippets below.
      What year is it??


      All good news though I still maintain the 370z is a great car though, just about 5k too expensive.

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      The specs sound promising, but like any sports car, it's going to be all about the details. I'd consider one of these depending on what the finished product brings to the table. I suppose I should own an Asian performance car at some point and this is shaping up to be right in my sweet spot.

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      Quote Originally Posted by NoGrip61 View Post
      What year is it??


      All good news though I still maintain the 370z is a great car though, just about 5k too expensive.
      I legitimately had to go online to see what the current number is, that car is way off my radar.

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      Nissan has a real opportunity to launch something with much better styling than the 370Z.
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      Hopefully we all live long enough to see this car

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      Quote Originally Posted by AZGolf View Post
      I don't think they'd deliver the 400hp engine at $35k but perhaps a naturally aspirated base model, twin turbo Sport trim closer to $50k, Nismo above that, and honestly I'd love to see a return of an $80k GT-R on such a platform with the larger displacement, 600+ horsepower, AWD, DSG, and so on.
      Where did I say $35K for 400hp? I laid out three engine trim levels and provided a price range including a floor and ceiling for the range.

      $80K GT-R would be cool, but better suited for the Infiniti Q60. Personally, I think the real thing to do with the GT-R tech is create a GT-R Sedan. My Redsport already feels like it's a significantly watered down version of what the Gt-R offers - high horsepower TTV6, electronic wizardry that enables the 4K lbs pig do things it shouldn't, amazing braking etc. If they delivered a Gt-R Q50 with 500hp in the $60-$70K bracket it would give the M3/AMG63/RS cars a real run for their money and have an impact potential similar to the first G35. but , this is something I never expect to see.
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      I think the pricing of the new Z will be close to the price of the Supra. Supra vs Z is like Japanese version of Mustang vs Camaro.

      Supra Canada price $65k Cdn
      https://www.toyota.ca/toyota/en/vehicles/supra/overview
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      There is no way the news Z can/will be as cheap as a Honda Civic Type R which is a $37k USD ($45k+ Cdn) car. Current Z is cheap because it is ancient .

      Japanese haven't made cheap sporty car with enough HP for decades. They are as expensive as the European offering. If you want cheap speed, look American brands.
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      Interesting combination:

      failing brand
      shrinking segment
      world pandemic

      Nissan has no control over the last one - business must go on - but as a combination, those 3 challenges will be hard to overcome.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Car Problems View Post
      Hopefully we all live long enough to see this car
      I came in here to post this.

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      I have exactly zero confidence that a new Z would be better than the existing one. Putting a turbo-charged engine in it would be enough to kill any desire to own one, for me.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Canaletto View Post
      I have exactly zero confidence that a new Z would be better than the existing one. Putting a turbo-charged engine in it would be enough to kill any desire to own one, for me.
      This is an interesting take.

      You wouldn't like another 50ish peak HP and 100+ ft-lbs all over?

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