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      Quote Originally Posted by whitejeep1989 View Post
      The Golf R doesn't offer a sunroof, but the GTI does.
      I love having a sunroof, and I was willing to sacrifice the R's performance benefits for it.
      I thought that too... until I had to deal with leaks in my MK7 pano equipped Alltrack. In my time with the R I've not thought once, "damn, wish I had a sunroof right now." That said the GTI sunroof, while not perfect, seems way more reliable than the pano wagons.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Somejaykid View Post
      I see you love living on the edge here . does the R have the leaky roof just like every other vw's?
      Pretty sure that precisely zero Golf Rs have had the one-piece steel roof leak.

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      The Golf R is an extremely nice place to be. Out of the $40K hot hatch/small car segment, I'd have a Golf R. And I would get it with DSG. And I would probably get it in a very boring color. Its quiet, very comfortable, practical and sensible. And its pretty darn quick. For the money in the segment, there isn't a more well rounded choice IMO. Even though a portion of my brain can't stop screaming "$40,000 GOLF YOU IDIOT!", it's what I would choose to spend my money on if I could only have 1 vehicle.
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      Quote Originally Posted by KrisA View Post
      I thought that too... until I had to deal with leaks in my MK7 pano equipped Alltrack. In my time with the R I've not thought once, "damn, wish I had a sunroof right now." That said the GTI sunroof, while not perfect, seems way more reliable than the pano wagons.
      I went from a Wrangler to a GTI, so I couldn't go from a convertible to no access at all to the sky.
      Knock on wood, but my pano has been leak-free, in the wo years since I've had the GTI.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Avus View Post
      VW R is more Audi S than RS.

      GTI TCR was the real hardcore "Golf".
      The R32/Golf R has always been the S3 drivetrain available in the Golf with some sporty styling enhancements. That's the formula. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      Quote Originally Posted by oidoglr View Post
      The R32/Golf R has always been the S3 drivetrain available in the Golf with some sporty styling enhancements. That's the formula. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
      looking at your garage...remember when we entertained the idea of a R36?
      Quote Originally Posted by konigwheels View Post
      Wow, it amazes me that we have children in here that can't read a couple paragraphs. No wonder America's doing so well in education! Can't take the time to read, but sure can find the time to post. Self indulgence at it's finest.

      TL;DR should be banned and changed to ID;CR or I'm dumb, can't read.

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      The R motivated me to make my first new car purchase EVER (at 50 yrs old)! For me it was like a swiss army knife on wheels. Is the car perfect in every aspect? No. But the whole package is just right for a DD. I'm happy and that is all that matters, for me . I'll leave it to TCL to point out all the other cars that have a .0025 cubic ft larger glove box and roomier foot wells for $5k cheaper.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
      The R motivated me to make my first new car purchase EVER (at 50 yrs old)! For me it was like a swiss army knife on wheels. Is the car perfect in every aspect? No. But the whole package is just right for a DD. I'm happy and that is all that matters, for me . I'll leave it to TCL to point out all the other cars that have a .0025 cubic ft larger glove box and roomier foot wells for $5k cheaper.
      Don't forget that there are cheaper cars that will go 1 second faster around tracks that we will never be on!

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      People like the Golf R because out of hot hatches available it's the most "grown-up" option.

      At a certain age some people prefer less boy-racer.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      People like the Golf R because out of hot hatches available it's the most "grown-up" option.

      At a certain age some people prefer less boy-racer.
      Apparently for my brother, that was at the ripe old age of 22.

      I was trying to talk him into a CTR if he wanted a hot hatch, but he was set on the R as it was the most understated hot hatch of the bunch. I can't blame him; it's a nice DD.

      If I wanted a hatch though, I'd probably get the GTI PP 6MT.

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      Quote Originally Posted by gti5dr06 View Post
      looking at your garage...remember when we entertained the idea of a R36?
      I remember that even being a vwvortex front page article speculating about it prior to the release of the MKV R32, which was a fairly reasonable expectation since the 3.6 VR6 was an engine available in the Passat/Touareg. I also fondly remember Jesse (infiniteecho)'s 6MT R36 swap.

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      Quote Originally Posted by fireside View Post
      I'd say Ford is on par with VW if not edges VW out slightly in overall reliability, plus the 2.3L EcoBoost has proven to be extremely stout in longitudinally mounted applications (Mustang, Explorer, Ranger). It does not or did not exhibit the weird head gasket fluke that affected some RS cars. Each marque has their own issues, but Fords are common. You can bring it to any shop or quick lube, grab parts from any corner auto store, etc.
      I plan on getting a GT350R as a track car sometime soon, so I'm not anti-Ford or anti-Mustang, but my brother has a 2017 Escape with paint already peeling off of it.

      I can tell you a Ford is definitely a low quality product, by and large. My Golf is leagues better than a Focus. But their trucks and Mustangs are pretty cool. Cool enough for me to forgive some things.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      People like the Golf R because out of hot hatches available it's the most "grown-up" option.

      At a certain age some people prefer less boy-racer.
      I think you're close on this, but I would phrase it differently. What brought me to my Mk6 R, and what led me to love it, is that it's such a fun car with so little compromise. Mine was an APR stg 2 with a southbend clutch. Only for the 3 weeks I, for whatever reason, ran a 42DD non-catted, non-resonated exhaust, did my family have anything negative to say about it, and that was very much my own doing.

      The car was just so playful, everything worked, great ergonomics, great headlights, just easy, fun, and appropriately equipped.

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      The Golf R is the perfect car for just about any situation save for carrying multiple passengers with luggage. That's why Chris Harris made the comment he did. The problem is, it's too buttoned down. Too sterile. In that sense, it's a "bad" hot hatch.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ZPayne View Post
      I plan on getting a GT350R as a track car sometime soon, so I'm not anti-Ford or anti-Mustang, but my brother has a 2017 Escape with paint already peeling off of it.

      I can tell you a Ford is definitely a low quality product, by and large. My Golf is leagues better than a Focus. But their trucks and Mustangs are pretty cool. Cool enough for me to forgive some things.
      This was my thought when I had my Fiesta ST. Sitting inside my Fiesta definitely did not feel like a VW/Audi product but damn it was a hell-of-a lot more fun driving it compared to my last two GTI's. Was it more reliable? Hard to say because my Fiesta was leaking oil from the turbo at almost 30k miles. Luckily my indy mechanic caught it just a few months before the factory warranty expired. Also, the rear motor mounts failed prematurely.

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      Quote Originally Posted by unhappymeal View Post
      The Golf R is the perfect car for just about any situation save for carrying multiple passengers with luggage. That's why Chris Harris made the comment he did. The problem is, it's too buttoned down. Too sterile. In that sense, it's a "bad" hot hatch.
      i mean its the same comments leveled at the Type R by the youtubers. A lot of them would say the gorf and type R are the best dailies and the N and RS are what you want for the traditional hot hatch experience
      Quote Originally Posted by konigwheels View Post
      Wow, it amazes me that we have children in here that can't read a couple paragraphs. No wonder America's doing so well in education! Can't take the time to read, but sure can find the time to post. Self indulgence at it's finest.

      TL;DR should be banned and changed to ID;CR or I'm dumb, can't read.

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      Quote Originally Posted by unhappymeal View Post
      The Golf R is the perfect car for just about any situation save for carrying multiple passengers with luggage. That's why Chris Harris made the comment he did. The problem is, it's too buttoned down. Too sterile. In that sense, it's a "bad" hot hatch.
      That's why it's such a damn shame there isn't a Golf R wagon in North America. Or even a GTI variant.

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      Quote Originally Posted by gti5dr06 View Post
      i mean its the same comments leveled at the Type R by the youtubers. A lot of them would say the gorf and type R are the best dailies and the N and RS are what you want for the traditional hot hatch experience
      I think that's what really led me to the Fiesta ST. While the GTI was a much more well rounded probably better DD, I was looking for a hoot.
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      Most 1.8T nevAr loOse fanboys migrated to the Golf R.

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      I don't think they're super exciting, but there's no denying they are fast.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MGQ View Post
      but that has nothing to do with its on track 10/10ths performance that nobody will ever actually have to worry about!
      What happens if it was a wet track?

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      Quote Originally Posted by oidoglr View Post
      That's why it's such a damn shame there isn't a Golf R wagon in North America. Or even a GTI variant.
      My perfect daily would be a Golf R variant with a stick.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Nealric View Post
      My perfect daily would be a Golf R variant with a stick.
      +1

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      Quote Originally Posted by Nealric View Post
      My perfect daily would be a Golf R variant with a stick.
      For free! That would be the only way they could move them at meaningful volume
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      I spent my entire season budget during the off-season on go fast parts, so now I'm wishing I hadn't and had saved a little so I could buy a sim rig.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      People like the Golf R because out of hot hatches available it's the most "grown-up" option.

      At a certain age some people prefer less boy-racer.
      What a foreign concept. . .
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