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      Quote Originally Posted by Silly_me View Post
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      To piggyback on this, since the consensus is it doesn't matter, does the old rule get fuel from the newest station with the newest tanks meet with the same response?
      New station doesn't necessarily mean new tanks, that's a lot of money to spend digging up tanks and replacing them.

      I usually have a preference of shopping for a corporate branded/clean store as its possible they have the newer encrypted keypads/card readers on the pumps in addition to a normal maintenance schedule on the dispensers.
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      Personally I just fill up gas tanks and leave them outside for several years before I actually use the gas. Gas is like a fine wine, you have to age it first.
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      Before the 1980ies, yes, you would have to worry about these things.

      These days? Not so much. Not since underground tank regulations came into effect. I think they were last updated in 2015, which put a lot of small stations out of business.

      That said, while fuel filling stations have filter systems, the filters are not replaced often enough.
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      If your car plugged in at home you wouldn't have to buy any gas.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      If your car plugged in at home you wouldn't have to buy any gas.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      If your car plugged in at home you wouldn't have to buy any gas.

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      But what about suspended contaminants in the electrical tank? And does your battery even have a filter?

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      Thank you, OP, for asking this question. My dad and step-brother have made me paranoid for my entire life, so I don't think I'll worry about this anymore.

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      Quote Originally Posted by StressStrain View Post
      But what about suspended contaminants in the electrical tank? And does your battery even have a filter?
      My electrical tanks get their juice from only the cleanest juice plants. They do all the filtering at the plant before it gets sent to the tanks.

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      Quote Originally Posted by cabin pics View Post
      my electrical tanks get their juice from only the cleanest juice plants. They do all the filtering at the plant before it gets sent to the tanks.






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      Quote Originally Posted by GLI Dan View Post
      I actually fill up at the port direct from the ships.
      i tugboat my car out to the ship and fill up before the somali pirates get to the ship

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      Quote Originally Posted by puma1552 View Post
      i tugboat my car out to the ship and fill up before the somali pirates get to the ship
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      Quote Originally Posted by TooFitToQuit View Post
      From two summers on a fuel dock: the issue is pretty much always the user. Release the handle, wait 30 seconds, and try again. It'll speed up.
      No, it usually means their filter needs to be changed. IIRC someone also once told me if the tanks are filled to high it can cause the slowdown as well.

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      Quote Originally Posted by UncleJB View Post
      No, it usually means their filter needs to be changed. IIRC someone also once told me if the tanks are filled to high it can cause the slowdown as well.
      Yeah, it only happens to me at small/old stations out in the country, never at Costco or QuikTrip.

      I have had a few cars where you have to sort of lean/prop the nozzle out slightly to get full flow, and this isn't that kind of situation.

      Basically, I don't want their dregs so I move on if possible.
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      Quote Originally Posted by scribe42 View Post
      It used to be "common knowledge" that you shouldn't buy gasoline right after a station refilled their underground tanks. The common thinking was that the filling process would stir up water and suspended contaminants in the underground tank. Then, after a period of time, the contaminants would settle to the bottom of the storage tank and the pump would again deliver clean gasoline.

      I think of this often when I drive to Costco to buy gasoline, only to discover that a tanker truck is at work, filling the underground storage tanks. Costco sells A LOT of gasoline, so they frequently need replenishment. And I always leave without buying.

      It's clear that present-day engines with FI are equipped with extremely efficient fuel filters. And, honestly, I don't think I've recently heard anyone saying that their vehicle was harmed by dirty fuel.

      So, is there any truth today to the "old wive's tale" or not?
      The contaminants stirred up in the dispensing tank that get passed through the hose into your vehicle's gas tank can be mitigated (eliminated) with a copious amount of sugar. Once inside the tank, the sugar, or rather "sugar alcohol", breaks down and the caustic sugar hydrocarbon disintegrates the impurities (much like how Coke can dissolve a tooth in a day), while the alcohol helps aid in higher octane and better fuel economy.

      The rule of thumb (based on octane) is roughly 1 cup of sugar to 1 gallon of gas capacity. So a 14 gallon tank would require 14 cups.
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      Quote Originally Posted by GreenandChrome View Post
      The contaminants stirred up in the dispensing tank that get passed through the hose into your vehicle's gas tank can be mitigated (eliminated) with a copious amount of sugar. Once inside the tank, the sugar, or rather "sugar alcohol", breaks down and the caustic sugar hydrocarbon disintegrates the impurities (much like how Coke can dissolve a tooth in a day), while the alcohol helps aid in higher octane and better fuel economy.

      The rule of thumb (based on octane) is roughly 1 cup of sugar to 1 gallon of gas capacity. So a 14 gallon tank would require 14 cups.
      You didn't need to tell us this. It is common knowledge.
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      The tanker has a sock. The station has a sock. Your vehicle has a sock. There's no chance of dregs fouling up your fuel injected vehicle even if you fill up with the tanker filling up the station at the exact same time. Old wives' tales.

      And stop with the 3,000 mile oil changes, too. It's damn-near 2021, we should all stop living in the mid-20th Century already...

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      Quote Originally Posted by StressStrain View Post
      But what about suspended contaminants in the electrical tank? And does your battery even have a filter?
      This should help with electrical tank contaminants.


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      Quote Originally Posted by scribe42 View Post
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      I think of this often when I drive to Costco to buy gasoline, only to discover that a tanker truck is at work, filling the underground storage tanks. Costco sells A LOT of gasoline, so they frequently need replenishment. And I always leave without buying.
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      I buy gasoline frequently from Costco. You are correct, the tanker truck is there often. I have never had a problem with Costco gasoline, so I hope all is well with using it. The supply is certainly fresh, since they sell so much.

      I have more concerns at small gas stations that look like they may be poorly maintained, and not sell very much gasoline. Yes, there are fuel filtration and storage tank regulations, but...

      I also try to keep my gas tank above the 1/2 mark. If I get some questionable quality gasoline, I don’t have a full tank of it.

      A few years ago I bought a partial tank full of Pemex (national gasoline of México) that I thought was bad. It was diluted by good gasoline, since my tank was already partially full; so I was very lucky. I changed my fuel filter soon after that.

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      Supposedly the worst gas you can purchase is in Tucson, Arizona as per the routing, purchase orders & being regionally located the tankers dump their tanks there before heading back to Texas.

      Not one time ever, on all my vehicles, had a clogged or compromised fuel filter, injectors, messed up CIS(E), efi system or carb.

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      I have filled up numerous times while tanker truck unloading. Couldn't tell a difference from filling up when tanker wasn't there.

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      There is nothing “wives tailish” about it—sediment and condensation are definitely real issues, it’s just that modern stations have high turnover and fuel transfer practices have (supposedly) improved over time. There was a time not so long ago it was a roll of the dice refuelling at a remote station. I’ve had to change fuel filters and drain water lots of times from oil/water separators on diesels and when you do this on a regular basis it’s obvious when you’ve had a tank from a suspect source. Caterpillar even put out a video on how long you should wait before transferring fuel after receiving a delivery to a remote tank...I looked but couldn’t find it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dirtmvr View Post
      sediment and condensation are definitely real issues, it’s just that modern stations have high turnover and fuel transfer practices have (supposedly) improved over time.

      Despite what has been shared here, I'll still wait until the next day to fill up if I'm set on using a certain station. Generally though I will just fill up somewhere that there is no truck currently delivering fuel. It could have left 10 minutes before I got there for all I know, but most likely not? So the real answer for me is I will still try to avoid filling up while a delivery is actually taking place.
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      Quote Originally Posted by scribe42 View Post
      I think of this often when I drive to Costco to buy gasoline, only to discover that a tanker truck is at work, filling the underground storage tanks. Costco sells A LOT of gasoline, so they frequently need replenishment. And I always leave without buying.
      If the trucks are always there stirring up the crap - and the sediment then gets pumped into cars - Where's the new sediment coming from? By that logic, the trucks must be pumping garbage into the tanks. Doesn't make sense man.
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      The only time I'd be wary is in the winter. Since the mandated ethanol BS in gas, during the filing of the tanks in winter the agitation can stir up the fuel and you can get phase separation. The alcohol and water and gasoline will separate into layers and you do NOT want to deal with that. I've had it happen twice in cars and had to drain the tanks.

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