I don’t really know about the video posted before, but I’m sure it had more than a tune to run 11s. I’m guessing exhaust, intercooler, maybe some meth. It’s definitely making more than 400 wheel though.
I just meant people are getting to that power with just an E50 tune. No idea what they run with that.
I predict significant depreciation on these. Bad buy new, probably a good buy used or off lease. Just don’t get early production.
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Looked at one for the wife.
Too small for our needs but its a pretty fun drive for an SUV. A simple tune gets them easily into the 12s in the 1/4 mile.
I think Ford nailed this one. Only complaint is that stupid ipad looking center display
This whole contrarian "I got my whole car philosophy from Jalopnik" deal is so corny.
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Anyone interested in handling would be better served by a wagon.
Anyone interested in off-roading would be better served by a 4wd suv.
So who is the target customer?
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I just can’t fathom owning any Ford products except perhaps a few Mustang variants and their halo GT super cars. My trust in the brand is low based on my lifetime of accumulated experience.
Only the Explorer base, XLT and Limited models are available in optional RWD only configuration.
We were super close on the Explorer ST. Drove all the Explorer drivetrains and the CD6 platform begs for that engine. We wanted to like the Hybrid, and it was very smooth and silent off the line which was great, but not the same for passing power on the road. Back to the ST though, a vehicle that size, seating 6 or 7, has no business being that fun to stomp on. Very similar to various Durangos in that sense. It can haul the whole family, or 4ft sheets of building material, or tow your Mustang to the track, or maybe a lighter pontoon and also goes like stink when you want it to.
We ended up sizing up but that’s no knock on the ST. It’s great in its niche.
When they first announced it I thought it was ridiculous, but having seen a few and reading some reviews and such I am changing my tune. I would compare it to the X3 M40i as I'd compare the Mustang GT to the M240i. No reason one needs to pay all the markup if they want the capability/performance but aren't interested in fancy touch controls or whatever.
It makes sense in RWD too. Before SUVs like this there weren't ever really 6-7 passenger vehicles that were fast, relatively fun to drive and able to tow ****. Now there are, and people buy them.
Lol @ wagons. The only Americans still buying wagons are those who want to make a statement. Which is fine. But no more logical than buying something like this.
The first problem with the Explorer ST, for me anyway, is the explorer at the base. I find it ugly. I vastly prefer the styling of the immediate previous gen version. I'd rather have a the previous gen Explorer Sport.
I got to crawl around an ST when it first came out at dealers. For me, I just thought it was cheap looking. I thought all the things I could see were generally nicer in my jeep srt. I got the distinct impression that the Explorer ST was a trim package with a decent engine. Didn't seem all that performance oriented. And stock for stock, I'll take a 392 over a turbo 6 all day long.
I suppose if I was someone who wanted a performance SUV that's a blank slate for modding, I'd be silly to go with anything else than the ST. I think Ford left a lot on the table. Maybe there will be an RS version?
Lastly, I believe it was MT who did a fairly recent comparo of the ST vs Durango ST. The Durango won. That should say something when an ancient vehicle pretty handily beat out something much newer and modern.
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Wagons are for people who enjoy driving dynamics and handling.